WTF, AMD, I bought a RX 6800 card new only 3.5 years ago, when it was your current offering. Now you're gonna act like it's old already. That's some bullshit.
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Truly AMD shooting its own legs off in the space.
NVidia has 9+ years of game ready support on some cards (I believe 11 in some special cases) and they're expecting people to take the compromises of being low in market share (so game devs are less likely to optimize for their cards), having a feature delay vs NVidia cards on average, and then to top it all off, having less than half the length of support than their alternatives.
They do this all and expect people to be happy with that for a $50 discount.
It almost feels like they're calling their future customers stupid for believing that their cards will last.
Its crazy because NVidia has so much bad blood with consumers, and yet AMD seems almost by contract forced to cut is own legs out from under it any time it would be convenient for NVidia.
Call me an and fanboy but I have run nothing but and hardware for ages. They have always been better price for performance in my budget. Their really not shooting their own legs off when consumers don't have a choice today. You cannot build a budget rig on Intel and Nvidia parts, there simply aren't making good price to performance products. If u want a cheap solid 1080p PC u need a Ryzen CPU and a rx6600 that's just the formula today. If your upset that a mid range card from almost 5 years ago isn't getting the latest and greatest features of today's card then perhaps you need to look a little harder into what Nvidia updates were coming out after 9+ years on Nvidia. Something tells me it wasn't to add the newest cards features to the decade old house that don't have supporting architecture.... And is still providing day zero game updates to rdna 1 and 2 so I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Just sounds like people looking for an excuse to rag on AMD 🤷
You cannot build a budget rig on Intel and Nvidia parts, there simply aren’t making good price to performance products.
That's gotta be a very specific regional thing for you, because the B580 has had many periods of being the budget goto for new cards being sold.
Then, for the 5060TI 16GB, which is sorta budget now, like low to mid budget, competes against the 9060XT when you consider.... things like this, wider DLSS coverage, greater chance of game devs optimizing for it and total system price.
I do also kinda see only 16gb+ GPUs as viable... and I guess the 12gb 5070 if a gun was put to my head.
At the budget end further than that though, its gotta be used.
Talking about 400$ gpus as budget is the problem with today's market. My whole set up down to monitor and peripherals was maybe 850 bucks, for reference my last car was a grand. Spending 1500 plus to have a PC set up is insane to me.
Also find it ironic your crying about drivers for the rx6600 while recommending the b580, that while technically a faster card, is regularly out performed by the rx6600 due to superior driver support.
Talking about 400$ gpus as budget is the problem with today’s market. My whole set up down to monitor and peripherals was maybe 850 bucks, for reference my last car was a grand. Spending 1500 plus to have a PC set up is insane to me.
It's a crazy world, but unfortunately the market is how it is, and the AI Boom...ubble is making it a lot worse.
By sales volume, despite their price hikes, the various skus are getting similar to their prior number spreads. You'd think something like the 5090 would be getting half the sales of the 5080, and the 5080 half the sales of the 5070ti and so on and so forth (not quite following that steep an increase) but they aren't, at least according to steam survey results and then you have to remember a bunch of 5090s are going straight off to AI racks.
Basically what I'm saying is... they price at what the market can bear (roughly, as of course AI skus the optimization math).
I think one economic theory Ive seen that seems plausible, is that many who would otherwise be saving up for houses have given up and buy the small luxuries to make life less shit.
Also find it ironic your crying about drivers for the rx6600
Why be incendiary/hostile about... I'm not even sure what, on a hardware forum post discussing a company's anti consumer practices???
You think I care about other consumers purely out of self interest? Maybe you think I'm an AMD fanatic? My current GPUs are a RX 580 (In a linux box), RTX 4070 and RTX 5090, and I've had an Intel A770 too. I have no allegiances.
that while technically a faster card, is regularly out performed by the rx6600 due to superior driver support.
I specifically listed that this was for new cards at the budget end. The 6600 is a gen old and may be out of production.
Also the B580, especially now, is definitely faster (6600 was only 3/4ths as powerful at launch).
I bought a new rx6600 like2 weeks ago. It still gets regular updates and is the best card for the money if u want to play any modern titles without spending over 200 on a GPU. And has stated that in maintinence mode these cards will still get day zero game updates, their just focusing new features on their newer cards with newer architecture....
Why do you keep shooting yourself in the foot AMD? You don't have that many toes left.
Seriously, how hard is it to put out a quick clarification that doesn't alienate a majority of your customers? The statement they just gave to tomshardware is not good enough.
I'm not sure there is any PR spin that would make this decision less hated.
They backtracked on this even before the emporium had time to polish the pitchforks...
(Machine translated) New features, bug fixes and game optimizations will continue to be delivered as required by market needs in the maintenance mode branch.
A very PR soft backtrack as opposed to the backtrack they needed to have.
This literally promises nothing and weasle words them out of having to do anything differrent.
What are market needs? Very vague and basically allows for anything.
That was really quick.
RDNA2 is from 2020 and RDNA1 is from 2019. Unacceptable to be putting these generations on maintenance mode.
Damn between them and Nvidia drivers being shit on some Linux distros, is there any hope for the future of GPUs? I'm not super hopeful on Intel's offerings now that the US government holds a minority share of the company.
The real problem is that nobody cares about gpus anymore when ai makes them so much money.
If you're running Linux, this doesn't affect you in any way.
It affects resale value.
What does this actually mean???
AMD and Nvidia put hacks and workarounds in their windows drivers for individual games, to make those specific games run better. Usually only for the big AAA releases. They won't be doing that anymore for the "old" cards.
Wait so for example if they didnt support dlss/fsr on cyberpunk, someone Else will do that? I Read some comments around the fedi with ppl saying there is nothing to worry about on linux..🤔
Read a statement from AMD, they are still providing day zero updates to rdna 1 and 2....
Not really. They use a vague weasel word to basically say "we will, whenever we feel like, no promises".
The phase they used was "as required by market needs in the maintenance mode branch".
That could mean anything, any time.
You know when a product is super old and so it only gets the bare minimum needed for the driver not to have security problems or major flaws? That, except the products aren't super old in this case, hence the anger.
It means that a card you could have bought yesterday will not be getting the typical game specific driver updates that fix common issues that game devs don't fix.
Is this system of drivers fixing game bugs logical? Its kinda not, but its just been how graphics and games have evolved to being over the years, which potentially means that some new games may have graphical glitches and crashing problems that it would be purely up to the developers to fix. More than that, there would also likely be optimization problems drivers sometimes fix, that these drivers will not.
This might not actually be the end of the world on NVidia cards because they have such significant market share, but for AMD cards with very small marketshare by comparison its a big problemm, because devs won't be as incentivised to do so. AMD cards are pretty much at linux levels of adoption and we can see how poor support is there, so while the cards will still run games for sure because this is not like being a different OS, they probably just will run worse.
Good ol' mesa saves the day again.
I’m guessing Mesa doesn’t have those either.