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This is my one deal killer for Linux on the Desktop. I have a stack of laptops with Linux installed (mostly Fedora). They are all Dell Latitudes. My main two are a Gen 12 i7 and a Gen 8 i5. I'd rather use the Gen 12 i7 (it also has more RAM and storage). However, the i7 doesn't have S2 sleep, only S0ix. When I shut the lid, it will lose about 40%-50% battery over an 8 hour period. The Gen 8 i5 does have S2 and sleeps okay with it. I only get a 10% drop in battery over the same period.

I hear that this is some Microsoft-Dell shenanigans to "better" support Win10/11. But is there a lightweight 14" or 15" laptop out there that will run Linux well and sleep without draining the battery so much? Would and AMD system work better than Intel?

I see all the complaints about sleep but there has to be something better than 40%-50% drop on the nightly that would require me to keep it on power just to have a fresh laptop when I need it.

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

My x1 carbon on mint seems to go for weeks while suspended.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My X1 Carbon does now. But it used to drain to empty after a day or two even if it was turned all the way off. Drove me crazy.

The problem ended up being the always-on USB setting in the BIOS. For some reason, even with nothing connected, that would drain the battery until it was completely flat. Once I turned that off, it'll sleep for weeks like you said.

OP, maybe check the BIOS settings for "Always on USB" or similar and disable that?

[–] mortalic@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Also have an x1carbon and I usually forget to plug it in for weeks at a time. It's great and it shipped with Linux, bios updates happen regularly, it's amazing.

Edit: I got my daughter a framework 13 with the amd CPU. It's running fedora 42 and she rarely plugs it in. Another great option.

[–] CAWright 1 points 4 days ago

Always did like the look of those models.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

All the thinkpads I've tried so far work flawlessly with sleep on Linux (both S3 and s0ix, many generations old and new)

if you're looking for a new laptop have a look at the arch wiki pages for them example, they usually have a lot of info about this stuff

EDIT: oh also remember to buy used/old new stock (by 1-2 years) because new hardware won't have good software support. should probably run a distro with an up to date kernel as well (e.g. arch, tumbleweed, endeavour)

[–] CAWright 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the Archi Wiki link. I always forget about that thing. I'm a bit fan of the late model, low mileage computer purchases. They are cheap and I'm keeping something out of a landfill in Africa.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My Lenovo LOQ 15arp goes to sleep really nicely. Flawlessly, really, every single time.

It just can't wake up from sleep and requires a reset to be able to do anything after a sleep on kernel 6.11+.

6.10 is fine.

Why the hell is sleep so difficult for Linux machines?

[–] CAWright 2 points 4 days ago

No kidding. My old Dells are great but the newer beefier one requires me to spend alot of thought on keeping it charged. I went back to my M1 Mac just for the lack of worry about having enough power. I wish MS didn't have such power over the vendors but I also wish we could figure this out on the Linux side. I've searched and searched for an S0ix solution but finally gave up and asked here about other hardware.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My Framework 13 and my Minisforum V3 both sleep correctly. The only issues I run into are with waking and sleeping BEFORE i remove them from my USB-C doc's and switch from work to home or home to work. And even then its just slow to figure out what to do at worst.

[–] CAWright 1 points 4 days ago

I'd love a Framework but the 13 is a bit too small for my old eyes and the 16 is just too heavy. I've gotten spoiled by lightweight laptops. I was looking at that 16 for a long time, though.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My issue with sleep has always been resume. I have a lenovo legion and it will go to sleep, waking it back up is another story, half the time the display never comes can and I have to hard reboot

[–] CAWright 2 points 4 days ago

I've heard alot of those stories but have never experienced them. I hope I'm not just trading one problem for another in trying to find a good sleeping laptop.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

12th gen Intel is the last to support OG standby. 13th gen and up are S0 standby only. AMD gave up on S1-3 standby even earlier.

ThinkPads with 12 gen CPUs support the good standby if you want a nice machine with it.

[–] CAWright 1 points 4 days ago

That's where my AMD focus came from. I assume the BIOSes are different and may at least have the option to re-enable S2. I've seen a few of the 8840 processors and the laptops look nice. There's specifically an Asus one I like but I've ready mixed reviews on it with Linux.

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

I had two Razer Blades in the past wjere sleep never was an issue. Now switched to a desktop and an old Dell laptop where I tried about five different distros but could not get sleep to work on any of them 😿