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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 80 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I wonder if it is biologically possible to grow a cannabis-tomato hybrid. Like a tomacco, but it's actually a cannato.

Cannatoes could be used to make pizza into an edible, which might be too much for mere human minds to comprehend.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just infuse the oil to make the dough.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (5 children)

THC oil in the dough, cannatoe-based sauce with dried ground weed added as a garnish... might just send you straight to God.

[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm definitely not an expert, but I thought the biggest issue with baked edibles were the temps you cooked them at might degrade THC. Isn't it impossible to get the dough crispy at temps THC stays stable at?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

An infused olive oil brushed crust as a post-oven finishing touch would solve that problem.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Makes more sense as there is at best 2 tablespoons of oil in most large pizza recipes I’ve baked.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pot brownies are popular in the United States, which are baked at 180 degrees Celsius. I think the idea is to protect the components that contain THC, i.e. the crust and sauce.

For that reason, thin-crust pizzas like New York-style pizza are out. They are too thin and would expose the THC to high temperatures. Neapolitan pizza is also out because there is nothing protecting the cannato sauce from the 400-degree wood-fired oven. That leaves thick-crust pan pizzas.

Chicago-style pizza is a possibility despite the fact that the sauce is on top of the cheese, because there is so much of it that it becomes soupy. It might be possible to pour ordinary tomato sauce on top of the cannato sauce to protect it. Conversely, Detroit-style pizza does not have very much sauce at all so it's out.

I think the best contender is a Pizza Hut-style pan pizza, which has a thick crust and an edge-to-edge layer of cheese on top of it, which I think would do a good job protecting the delicate sauce underneath.

i was gonna say. Properly deep/stacked pizzas, casseroles, and calzones are the way to go here.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

Dude, shut up and pass the bong.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can make pizza into an edible right now just using cannabutter with the pizza crust.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Putting cannabutter in pizza is insidious, imagine eating pizza because you got the munchies, which then gives you the munchies again.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I cannot recommend enough to NOT smoke nightshades other than tobacco, the fact that they contain microscopic amounts of nicotine is somewhat offset by the OTHER alkaloids.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know.....you didn't have to say that! Now I'm hungry for, and excited to try a pizza edible that doesn't exist!

Great. Now I'm hungry AND sober...

i keep neglecting to turn my budder into lemon curd. i really need to do that, lemon curd is ridiculously easy in a pressure cooker.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

so you can make tomacco because the roots are what make the nicotine. swap the roots of a tomato plant and a tobacco plant and you can get tomacco (nicotine tomatoes) and nicotine-free tobacco.

the THC (and minor cannabinoids) in cannabis is in the flowers, but i don't know if the THC is made there. we don't smoke tobacco roots to my knowledge, but this is about the extent of my education on the subject.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The chemical production actually occurs in the trichomes themselves, so you need unfertilized female flowers,, or at least sugar leaves, to (eventually) produce THC. Although the plant doesnt directly produce THC, it produces things like CBGa and THCa which get broken down through a process called decarboxylation (removing the carboxyl group from a molecule and replacing it with hydrogen.) into CGB and THC. The most common way to decarb it is with heat through smoking, vaping or cooking but some decarboxylation also happens naturally over time during the curing process after harvest.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3165946/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11050509/

I was unfortunately in the hospital for a week or so when these were starting to flower and they got really stressed out from lack of water but they came out alright in the end.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

does I forget: doesn't THC "degrade" into CBG? is CBGA part of that chemical process?

it's been so long since i thought about cannabinoids (aside from "limonene and pinene pleez") that i can't remember much beyond their effects.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I added THCa to my original post, but the decarboyxlation process is how the various acids (the A at the end) in the plant break down, yeah. I wouldn't really call it degrading, but THC can degrade over time if exposed to oxygen or light, or stored somewhere too dry. They sell these little saltwater packet humidor things from some company called Boveda. After drying and curing, you throw the pack in a mason jar along with your flower and then you can store it for up to a year without losing much quality.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

those packs are great for upgrading shit- weed into mid- weed too

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah they will rehydrate the flower to the right level and give you a bit more bulk and flavor.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't know specifically, but generally hybrids need to be in the same genus. Tomatoes are nightshades and I think cannabis is in the bamboo side of things.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hear me out: cannabis/bamboo hybrid. You just pluck a stalk and the whole thing is a smokable, natural pipe, ready to go.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ans theb you shove it in the ground and it grows a whole new forest.

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[–] comador@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

You are correct, they need to be related. A fun fact most don't know (you probably do though):

Tomatoes are related to potatoes!

The both come from the same nightshade family: Solanaceae.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

tomatoes and cannabis are both brassica it's fine

[–] comador@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Instructions unclear... I crossed them and got a really thc heavy ketchup instead.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i was being a dork but "special" salsa sounds really good right now

[–] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

and I was being a dork about saying it, but damn, imagine some nachos with a salsa like that.

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They are in the same family as hops, interesting beer?

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 34 points 4 days ago

Yeah, that’s what happens when you buy tomato plants off Terry in your local.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

it's pronounced Tommaco

[–] Uri 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Those are cannabis plants, not tomatoes. Although botanically speaking cannabis and tomatoes are basically cousins, and have very similar growth requirements. So if you "accidentally" planted cannabis and fed it thinking you planted tomatoes then it would do quite well.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

...so ppl gotta try smoking tomatoes?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think they contain some nicotine, no?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They contain the mildly to moderately toxic alkaloid tomatine lol, you're gonna become a medical case study if you smoke the leaves.

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[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

That's tomacco.

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[–] b34k@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

While the Joke is that that’s definitely not a tomato plant…

Apparently tomato’s can do something like this if you fertilize with the wrong formula (I.e. high nitrogen).

Tried growing some tomatoes myself for the first time this year… gave em the same fertilizer I was giving everything else, and they exploded with green growth into a giant bush, but never produced a single tomato. A few flowers would bloom, it’d get some small green ones, then they’d just fall right off the bush a day latter.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

From this far away, looks like you can expect plenty of mangoes in the summer.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oooo, that looks like headaches, not highs.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Hello, Doctor Greenthumb? Paging Doctor Greenthumb!"

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