Finally we can view Mojang's shitty server multi-threading implementation in all its glory.
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So, what's the catch? Surely Microsoft and Mojang didn't just suddenly become good?
The monkeypaw says they will stop updates for the java edition or release a new version that doesn't work on the java edition.
They probably see how many sales are generated from the free work done by modders though. If someone wants to come along and do for free the thing you might have to actually pay designers, developers, artists and all the support staff for and they still need to pay you to play it, you'd be foolish not to encourage the exploitation of free labor.
Call me ignorant, if this happened and it brought a new golden era of modding (1.7.10 style) where everyone's playing the same version I'd be maybe the happiest player ever.
Modders backporting content is nothing new, hell, they even brought the mobs that didn't make the cut from those stupid mob votes to life.
Let modding become the new updates, fuck it. At this point they'd likely be better realised than Microsoft's efforts.
1.7.10
Y'all can try and pull it from my cold, dead hands.
I should boot up the ol modpack and see what it do---oh, right, it crashes 🥹
Young generations and mobile players are on bedrock
Everyone else plays Java where you can easily self-host a server
If that happens, the modding scene would boom incredibly
And you'd have some smart nerds who take it upon them to keep updating the game much better than Mojang ever could.
It would become open source almost
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I guess it just doesn't make sense to obfuscate it when mods in general runs the Minecraft community in turn making more profit to Mojang/Microsoft. My other suspicion is potential competition. There is this game called Vintage Story which kinda directly competes with Minecraft seems gaining ground and was built to be moddable from the start.
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Havent they been making changes to help mod/datapack development for a while?
Modding is such a big part of the game, helping it would get more people playing the game
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I look forward to several critical CVE being discovered like log4j
Unironically, me too. They're there now, waiting to be discovered. We can find them now on our terms or be surprised by them later.
Wasn't log4j originally found by 2b2t players, then used maliciously and reported later on, then going onto get fixed by every major server framework like bukkit, paper, fabric, and more?
Nah, it was found sometime before november 24 2021, publicly disclosed in december 9 2021, and only used by 2b2t players on december 10 2021.
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They started providing deobfuscation maps 6 years ago
TIL
They should officially support the mod loaders at this point
Playing minecraft without mods as an adult is like eating a plain potato, or like going to a party without inebriating substances.
Not... Really? I mean I get it if you like mods, i do too, but Minecraft offers so much out of the box that I find it extreme to claim that..
Yeah dude I totally agree! Mods are great in their own right, but there's something to be said for the insane variety of gameplay you can get outta the base game!
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Then I must be the most plain motherfucker out there. I meddle with Create and Biomes o' plenty every couple of years, but about 90% of my worlds are vanilla with the exception of a couple of Vanilla Tweaks data packs.
I tried Feed the Beast once... never again. That was the worst Minecraft experience I've had in my entire life!
Feed the Beast is commonly overloaded and also commonly shoves things like progression and questing, which are not to everybody's liking.
The best approach is always to add the mods you want manually to tailor the experience.
I personally had most fun with Terrafirmacraft, Thaumcraft, Electrical Age, and GregTech. But those were the days gone, and most of them got stuck at 1.7.10
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I think they might be anticipating LLMs possibly being able to do a decent job at deobfuscation in the near future. This is an opportunity for Mojang to earn friend points. They might as well take credit for something that is going to happen anyway.
Oh I see it’s that time of the year where Mojang gives the community a bone after stomping on them the rest of the year.
Anyways as someone who has worked on Java projects extensively since 2020, very little will actually change from this. The main problem of Mojang’s asinine version numbering will continue to be a problem for any modding, server, building and resource pack projects past 1.19.
Mojang’s asinine version numbering
They do what now?
Previously, they had the versioning system 1.MAJOR.MINOR, where Major referred to a feature update, and minor referred to bug fixes or other non-breaking technical changes
The first instance where they broke this was 1.16.2 by adding the Piglin Brute, but this was so minor that hardly anyone really cared, and hey, free feature with a minor update!
Well, now they have update "drops" where the minor version means either what it used to, or it's also a feature update, just not as big as a full update.
From the wiki:
- 1.20: Trails and Tales Update
- 1.20.3: Bats and Pots Drop
- 1.20.5: Armored Paws Drop
- 1.21: Tricky Trials Update
- 1.21.2: Bundles of Bravery Drop
- 1.21.4: The Garden Awakens Drop
- 1.21.5: Spring to Life Drop
- 1.21.6: Chase the Skies Drop
- 1.21.9: Copper Age Drop
That’s close to how the numbering system works! It’s MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH, Mojang just doesn’t use the major part at all.
Also I completely forgot the piglin brute existed! Also netherite templates got added it the 1.16 patch versions too if I am remembering right.
It’s kind of like Java itself, Sun dropped the leading 1 after 1.4, following it up with Java 5.
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This paired with the bedrock gdk release and changes to the file path so that we don't need to use iobit unlocker to mod rtx files is some hella good vibes
Why not go open source? What are they so afraid of, given anyone can now see the source code by using a simple tool?
Open source includes unlimited distribution. The game is still paid and they want to reserve distribution rights.
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Can't say I saw that coming, particularly after Microsoft bought them. Nice to have a surprise be pleasant once in a while.
The most profitable decision for MS is to leave the golden goose alone.
Not only do I think this will generate a fair number of CVE's, I think there will be a lot of optimization of the code going on.
Look at what happened with OpenOffice a few years back -- the Oracle buyout of Sun Microsystems forced the forking of OpenOffice to LibreOffice -- during which the new Dev team took the time cleanup and refactor the code. This resulted in a suite that was about 10 percent smaller, and removed a bunch of redundant things (like multiple copies of icons).
I bet we see something similar with Minecraft -- even if it can't be an "authorized" version.
Every Minecraft update just makes me hum "Where's the modding API" again.
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