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Gesticulation has long been a part of public speaker training.
It helps frame your words and your message and also direct meaning in a way that punctuation does in the written word.
As punctuation is to reading, as gesticulation is to speaking.
It's part of body language being part of speaking to someone (a person or an audience) and can help people relate to the speaker.
That particular gesture was famously popularized/lampooned due to Bill Clinton
from what i remember, they are coached to do it because pointing is seen as too aggressive but not making any hand gestures is too robotic. so its a way to make a non-aggressive emphatic hand gesture.
Which, ironically, makes them seem even more robotic
Only to people who are actually paying attention to a lot of politicians and likely looking exactly this up.
For the majority of the public? it is just "good public speaking".
I miss Obama and other politicians who could actually speak.
Yeah.
Although I recently heard him on Marc Maron's podcast, and was rather disappointed.
He's still far, far more lucid than most other politicians, but he came off as wildly out of touch, which I didn't recall him being 10 years ago.
Oh well, that's the match of time for you.
Well, the man's retired so he can be I suppose? When (if?) I'm able to retire, I plan on being as out of touch as possible :D
you don't remember him ordering grey poupon? Like a french aristocrat?
Oh that's right!
And now I'm remembering his scandalous tan suit!
Obama γγGrandpa Freeman
Marketing is always the answer.
Its what you do when you naturally want to point but dont want to be seen as rude and aggressive.
Correct answer right there. Politicians and business people are very aware of their body language. Another rule is never touch your face. When they do, photographers will snap a picture. In the photo they will look frustrated
LOL that's why I will never be a politician. I would be so frustrated by not being allowed to touch my face! The irony of it would just overwhelm me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chironomia
They are taught by "experts" that pointing is an ugly aggressive hand gesture.
It's silly how some of them do this while simultaneously pushing ugly and aggressive policies.
Theyβre squeezing their hands like that so they donβt accidentally do the nazi solute again.
Gotta make those policies seem friendly and non-aggressive!
That's neat.
Why does that article contain no references more recent than 1806 though. Is it called something else these days? It seems like there should be more modern information on the practice.
honestly with drawings like that I half expected at least one panel be involving bloodletting
It's one of many gestures that are used by trained public speakers as non-verbal communication cues. Here are some examples, including the one you asked about: https://qz.com/work/1093701/a-guide-to-ted-talk-hands-seven-signature-moves
There are many more beyond those. Using hand gestures in public speaking has been around since at least classical times.
Nobody likes being pointed at. The fist point, then, is a way to underscore an important point without the scolding, accusatory associations of a raised index fingerβbecause it uses a thumb instead. Clinton Thumb works best when paired with an intellectually complex point, making it a TED talk favorite. βIt is articulating that youβre focusing on something, and that youβre grasping it cognitively,β body language expert Joe NavarroΒ told Business Insider.
Thanks for posting that quote from the article.
trump and his accordion hands are very noticible, especially when he has to make a lie on the spot.
They all go to Ivy League colleges, and they all take the same public speaking classes.
It's a big club, but we're not in it.
Remember Biden's "I did that!" (lying) stickers that were placed on gas pumps by maga freaks? It's trivial to put your political opponent in an ad where they are saying something they're not, because pointing is seen as an aggressive gesture by the people coaching them for speeches, debates, etc. So they do the silly thumb-point for emphasis recommended by political strategists...
I wanna say I've heard that be referred to as the "Clinton thumb" since Bill Clinton did it a lot when president.
There are very few configurations of the hand and fingers that aren't offensive to someone. This one is one of the last few remaining, with "thousand points o' laght", a list that doesn't include "yuge" or the double "okay" sign.
So everyone does it.
"How dare you insult me with your flaccid mockery of a fishing pole grip, you will pay for your insolence"
It's so they don't point their finger and wag or shake a fist while they are taking. It is seen as a less offensive gesture to people watching body language.
If you work for a large company, ask around if there is a toastmasters group. If so join it and you will be let in on all the secrets of public speaking.
Oh that?
Thats the motion you make when fanning through dollar bills, one handed, to count em.
They're doing a pavlovian reflex everytime they need to remind themselves where their money comes from, and how its time to focus in on delivering ~~shareholder~~ lobbyist value.
Trump just channels his childhood accordion lessons. He doesn't even realize he's doing it.
Jerking themselves off to the idea of fucking their citizens over
You have to do something with your hand. This one's pretty neutral, because it's nothing.
Bill Clinton started it. Drives chicks crazy.
Way before Clinton. Jfk was doing it in black and white days. I dunno if he was the first though either.
As I said, drove chicks crazy, even Marilyn Monroe could not resist.
It's the I'm-pointing-at-you-with-a-pen-but-I-forgot-my-pen gesture.
It's a wand. They are actually enchanting you, the first spell always makes the wand invisible. That's why you never see it.
It's more of a public speaker thing than just a politician thing, but... Well, politicians are all public speakers, so it makes sense that that's the context you've seen it in.
It's literally a practiced gesture - public speaking makes use of some gestures that telegraph well to crowds, but seem unusual otherwise. IIRC, that fishing rod grip is an alternative to gesturing with a fist - it looks less aggressive, but gets the point across.
i think they just want to be a kpop star π€©π₯°
I always thought it was so comedians can do impressions of them.
"People who are more emotive with their gestures than me must be fake"
"People who are less emotive with their gestures than me are robotic lol"
Most people hold both of those views but have wildly different levels of emotiveness... The result? Posts like this
