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[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ohhh the holy smoke is potent with this one

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online -2 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I remember the smug internet atheist era that said that Christianity would fade away soon to science... and then slowly but surely many of those same atheists either became Christians or allied themselves with the same vile Christian nationalists who are actively exporting their filth all over the world.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

People don't really change much. They are sort of set in their ways. All the toxic bootlickers back in the day used to constantly insult us for being Christians because being an atheist was the popular thing and the path to power, now the opposite is true so they switched sides. Now they call us nihlistic and corrupters of the western world. They just follow what's popular. The politicians especially. They are obsessed with power and always appearing like they agree with the masses. They hated religion when it was antiwar, pro acceptance, anticorruption, they love it now that it is militant, right wing, and breeds corruption. The people never changed though. Most people who were Christians 20 years ago have abandoned the religion although ironically they are still very much like Christ. The people who were atheists 20 years ago in large part have embraced it. There is always those few people who stock to their principles. Who believe in truth. Unfortunately the world has changed a lot in 20 years. Our politicians started to bring in millions of immigrants and most people have become single issue voters on the issue of immigration because they see no other way to stop it. They are too foolish to see that the same people who allowed it are the same ones who are pumping billions of not trillions into promoting maga and Christian nationalism.

Since people have become single issue voters they have seized the opportunity to push all the worst shit in the world. Trump might throw them part of a bone when it comes to immigration but he will also be the president of the most mass survellience in history. He cleaned out the doj and replaced them with loyalists, he openly defies the constitution. He is trying to starve states that aren't loyal to his regime while also trying to steal their taxes.

The atheists are somewhat at fault. They used to call people Nazis when they weren't. They used to call people racist for not wanting unlimited immigration. They became too prideful of their own power. With all the hyperinflation the red states were hurt the worst. They threw protestors from Jan 6 in prison and then called them traitors. From their perspective if you are one who agrees with them, it actually seems perfectly rational because Democrats supported their politicians in doing many of the same things trump does to his enemies. They also would try to force policy with a tiny majority of the vote, like throwing people in prison for many years over relatively meaningless crimes, like modifying a rifle or something. Protesting the liberal government.

The corporations of course just switch sides the instant that they realized it was going the other way. What trump is doing is far beyond what the Democrats did.

However in the end, people mostly don't care about truth. They care about power. Truth dies to the pursuit of power. Language itself is tortured and twisted to try to change reality for those who cannot see it clearly. We have truly become a democracy in this sense. Our state being reduced to a weapon for one minority to oppress others. For one group to oppress truth. Democracy is truly here in the form that our state now reflects the average voter. Someone who hates taking responsibility, someone who can't see two sides of an issue. Someone in which everything is a means to power, and their only goal is to make other people feel the pain that they feel.

The greatest irony still is that there are actually people out there that understand how to fix everything, but they are the most hated of all people, because they say what nobody wants to hear. They don't validate any side nor agree with their extreme positions. They don't promise people prosperity and growth in their 401k but decades of pain and actually fixing things the right way, the slow and painful and responsible way. Those people will never get power, and so the likely outcome is that our society will both collapse as the Democrats fear, and white people will get replaced like the Nazis fear. The Democrats will lose all of their freedom, to speak and to live who they love by nature, and the Nazis will be undercut by millions of people who can do their job for half the wages. Women will be oppressed by religion, and yet most men will still be alone because they are disgusting. The rich will lose everything and also will die in the greatest shame, knowing that in the end they choose to always pursue power and profits over human dignity and truth.

There is a bit of sick joy to it in a way. Trump will be remembered in exactly the opposite of the way he wants. His legacy which is what he cares most about will be that he was the one who lied and manipulated people and destroyed freedom, not just in America but around the world. He nearly single handedly destroyed every good thing in the world. Hundreds of years where humanity finally escaped slavery and serfdom and religious brainwashing and most common people had a little bit of a decent life, where most people could be happy most of the time, and technology progressed fast, all gone away by his insatiable appetite for power. In the end he will realize that he is the worst president in human history. By his own choices no less. He might not say it but he will be remember that way. A perfect example of everything that's wrong with humanity. All the ones who cling to religion now to cherry pick hateful quotes to justify their immortality, will be remembered as so. Humanity will maybe fall. Western civilization might get erased by religious cultures who traffic women into marriages and take over city by city. All the survellience in the world will not change the fact that nobody gives a shit anymore, and so the great crescendo that was the 20th century will flame out like a fire without fuel. Humanity will descend once more into the darkness, and everything will collapse into tyranny and tribalism once more. Every human on earth will hate this small group of rich assholes who somehow manage to trick all of us into hating each other.

And maybe, on the other side of this, humanity will remember. They will remember that they want to be free, that they want to be nice to each other, that power is a waste of their one life. Maybe something good will come if it, like a flower out of ashes. Maybe all will be set right and wisdom will carry over from ages past. Humanity will awaken and with nothing to lose anymore, they will stop clinging to their materialistic world of power and status. There is many things going against authoritarianism. It's not just that it's evil, but it's bad. It kills creativity, it ruins genetics, it takes away hopefully and also silences the dreamer. It cannot take responsibility and so in this way authoritarianism for all of its physical power, because frail and weak. It is so easy to overcome in that way once people decide they don't want it anymore.

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Good, maybe this will somehow force Christians to actually act like Christ wanted them to.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

These are conservatives. They won't tolerate a woke AI.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 192 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Remember when God said he didn’t want idols made, then he punished the Jews to wander the desert for 40 years.

This gives those vibes.

It feels plain wrong.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Remember when God said he didn’t want idols made

You are about 1700 years late to this argument. Christians reconciled with iconography some time in the Byzantium Era.

And after Protestantism? FFS, can you imagine what Joseph Smith would say about an AI Prophet, after spending half his career reading discs out of a hat with special sunglasses?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry, totally unrelated but fun memory: Iconoclast was the first word whose unexpected etymology I (mostly) worked out on my own. I was watching a vh1 documentary on iconoclasts, and I’d just had a biology class where I’d learned about acetoclastic bacteria. I had a eureka moment wherein I leapt to the conclusion that “breaking the mold” was an older saying than I expected. I wasn’t totally right on that, but I was still psyched to have broken it down correctly.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You REALLY expect conservatives to actually follow the non oppressive sections of the scriptures?

Rotfl

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think they could use a good 40 years wandering the desert right now.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also I don’t think Christ would return if we were all being cool to each other, so they’re admitting they’re just trying to push humanity more off track.

How does that help you in God’s judgement? I’m pretty sure disrespecting all of his creation and doing the opposite of everything Jesus stood for won’t go well.

I’m agnostic, but selfishly I would not purposefully try to hasten driving myself to hell/damnation if I believed in it.

Thankfully the values my mom taught me are the same ones Jesus taught: love your neighbour as yourself and do unto others as you would have done to you.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thankfully the values my mom taught me are the same ones Jesus taught: love your neighbour as yourself and do unto others as you would have done to you.

This is what baffles me when my dad argues with me for being left of center.

You sent me where they taught this, did you not want me to learn it?

(Also not religious, but kept some of the philosophy)

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

There’s a lot of good Christian teachings that just make the world better regardless of your fear of eternal punishment or any god.

While outside my education I’m sure most religions too, but too many people get caught up in casting out others, or hating the non believers, or doling out punishments they have no right to.

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[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Wandering the desert?

Nay, vibe travelling.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The ego on these people, calling themselves Christians but thinking God needs their help for his plans.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They think God works through them, and it is their divine duty to do this.

It's how they justify a lot of the shit they do.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

-Susan B. Anthony

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't you know, God is a lazy slob who needs to be provoked into action. And of course he has no idea what's happening on Earth unless someone tells him in a very specific way.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Well he did only work 6 days in his life

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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is why humanities degrees are important. We're putting people into leadership positions surrounded by others who also have never critically engaged with a book.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 39 points 1 week ago

When your god is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, and also can easily be manipulated by puny human technology into doing your bidding.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

With all of this ‘hasten the coming of Christ’ talk it sounds like they’re planning on catching and trapping him.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

New anime plot, get to work

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lol the first LLM with included cognitive dissonance and self-loathing

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

mission to build a Christian AI

But AI is already fucking stupid?

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Hi there! It looks like you're trying to summon Jeebus!" --Fundy Clippy

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

*Ya know, i was god once...

Yes, i saw. You were doing well until everyone died.*

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[–] yoshisaur@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.” -- Frank Herbert

"Right now there is an explosive growth of the number of computers and things they can do. Not only are their numbers increasing at a dazzling rate, but the storage of information in giant data banks is growing in the same explosive way.

We have no way to control this now and none in sight. In fact, the very nature of this growth says that all controls will lag far behind computer developments. Any attempt to ban them will only drive com- puters underground. Never lose sight of the fact that computers "crunch time." The speed at which computers can operate tells us that laws cannot keep up with them. The person with a computer can dance rings around you while you react as though you were embedded in molasses.

What can you do?

Get your own computer. Learn how to use it. We are here to help you make that first step: how to find the one that fits your needs and your pocketbook, where to put it, how to program it-all of the essentials. If you don't do this, the Bill of Rights is dead and your individual liberties will go the way of the dodo." -- also Frank Herbert

I hate how much we seem to be slowly careening towards Frank Herbert's vision like the worse case of collective target fixation.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

I realise you have to be somewhat off the rocker to be a billionaire CEO, but Pat is showing more of that than I expected here.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Fuck yeah, LLMs for the LLM god! All hail the hallowed datacenter! Sacrifice the DNS!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

“So GodGPT, is the bible the inerrant word of God?”

> yes

“So why does it contradict itself”

>*explodes in Spr0ing*

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