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Foundation says it won't compromise policy of inclusivity even if that cash would've really helped

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[–] RustyOwl@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

I do not use Python for anything, but I donated. Any project, willing to stand up for its morals and against BS rules, is worth supporting.

[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Was going to go into just Rust and GDScript more but you what I am going to go into Python now too. Massive respect to them

[–] psyc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sent a donation! For as much as I’ve used python probably should have donated sooner but better late than never

[–] python@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I'd do the same

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 180 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It does not matter how much money you do or don't have, there is no sense pretending there is any sustainable path forward without a conscious commitment to inclusivity.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 69 points 1 week ago

That's just it: a sustainable path isn't in it. They want that to not even be an option. They want to burn it all twice as fast so they can buy bigger yachts.

[–] seitzer@piefed.social 179 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To make matters worse, the terms included a provision that if the PSF was found to have voilated that anti-DEI diktat, the NSF reserved the right to claw back any previously disbursed funds, Crary explained. "This would create a situation where money we'd already spent could be taken back, which would be an enormous, open-ended financial risk," the PSF director added.

Nobody in their right mind would sign such a travesty.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

"We think you've hired too many black people, you now owe us millions of dollars."

The fact that having money and simply convincing someone to accept it with terms means someone gets to do that in this system is fucking wretched.

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[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 113 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And that's what made me finally donate to Python after a little over a decade of using it.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It never occurred to me to donate to a language!

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I donate to languages daily by coming up with new words for free! Entguavisation Tascratulusly

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 84 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There's a joke about whitespace here somewhere, I just know it.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 1 week ago

the terms included a provision that if the PSF was found to have voilated that anti-DEI diktat, the NSF reserved the right to claw back any previously disbursed funds, Crary explained.

"This would create a situation where money we'd already spent could be taken back, which would be an enormous, open-ended financial risk," the PSF director added.

"Part of the problem here is all the uncertainties," Crary told us. "Even if we wanted to give up anything that might be considered [DEI] work - which we don't - part of the risk here is that all these restrictions are new, the language is very broad ... I had no interest in being the test case."

Sounds like a really awful deal; get some funding, but the unpredictable and corrupt US government gets opportunities to bankrupt you.

[–] Septimaeus 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck yes. Nerds with basic fucking integrity. Mad respect.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago (8 children)

DEI was a solution to a problem. When you remove the solution, what remains is the problem.

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[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago

I very rarely do any python development, but it sounds like it's time to make a donation.

https://www.python.org/psf/donations/

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Paying companies to be racist, what a world.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've met Guido (founder of the language) a few of times and I've never seen anyone care as much about community and diversity in the programming world as he does. Guido mentored people personaly to fill in diversity gaps so needless to say diversity is very important to the Python community, even after Guido himself stepped down from Python Foundation, the community never faltered in remaining true to these issues.

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[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

These terms included affirming the statement that we 'do not, and will not during the term of this financial assistance award, operate any programs that advance or promote DEI [diversity, equity, and inclusion], or discriminatory equity ideology in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws,'

Insane. I can't even fathom adding such a condition. And to a well established org with a positive track record.

Toxic offer. Wouldn't even be able to say that inclusivity is a good thing.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (18 children)

DEI is just the easiest way for the administration to be racist and commit hate based firings without repercussions.

Glad people are refusing to sign an agreement with the fascists as THEY WILL take money back at any moment in time. They are very fragile people trying to compensate for being cucks.

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[–] eemon@programming.dev 39 points 1 week ago

Good on them to stick to their guns!

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