You mean having an AI watch everything you do isn’t a good selling point?
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I don't think it's AI aversion. The problem is that Windows 11 guts the muscle memory that older consumers have built up from using prior generations of Microsoft Windows.
If a company is going to dick me over by suddenly changing/hiding/abstracting-away parts of their OS that I used to (an am used to) use on a daily basis, then I'd rather relearn a new OS from a company that doesn't have the track record of totally redoing their entire OS in the course of a single OS generation.
If I also have a little bit more disposable income and am anticipating a poor economic downturn, I'm going with the device that I can go to a physical brick-and-mortar place and have it serviced as opposed to the crap shoot that is any other Windows-licensed manufacturer's device.
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"despite"
I mean MacOSX put AI in the OS, Siri, and all their apps as well so I can't really see how the change would be do to AI. Privacy maybe
On MacOS, at least for now, AI isn't prominent at all. I've been using an M4 Air for a month before I remembered that Apple Intelligence was a thing and had to google how to use it. So far it only seems to be partially available in 1st party Apple apps which I don't use anyway.
Mail, Messages, Notes, Phone, Photos, Reminders, Safari, Shortcuts are all being integrated. That's outside of the whole image creation, integration into smartlook (basically windows search), and whatever else I can't think of at the moment. The one good thing I've seen is that you can turn it off. But it does scan your text to provide synonyms, summaries, rewordings... And that's just what it shows when I click intro.
As I said, those are all 1st party applications. I don't see it anywhere being OS-wide. And what's "smartlook"? Do you mean Spotlight? I haven't seen any AI in Spotlight, but I also haven't installed (the janky) Tahoe yet.
Yeah sorry I meant spotlight, smartlook is another tool I was thinking about for a different company. (Intuit, unrelated screen sharing I got the names crossed in my head). And yes Tahoe is the product that has those features.
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Have you actually used Siri? It’s a fucking joke Apple has no idea how to do AI. I think they will be better off than on Windows.
Siri is bad but at least it has natural language processing. I think it's so funny how CEOs have no idea how LLMs work.
Over a year ago Apple literally ran an ad showing off an "Apple Intelligence" feature that you could tell nobody at Apple ran by the actual engineers before deciding it was possible. It (of course) has still not been released.
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It stays out of your way though. Windows wants it to be your entire pc interface so they can charge you monthly for it eventually
Unfortunately the word ‘despite’ has been badly damaged as a result of the improper loads applied by this headline. It looks like it’ll be out of action for at least a couple months, maybe past the end of the season.
Those new Apple users are gonna be bummed when MacOS does the same thing in the very near future.
The immediate regret will be when they discover that Ctrl isn't where they expect it to be, followed by the discovery that it doesn't get used for copy and paste anyway.
The very first thing I did was swap around ctrl and cmd on my mechanical keyboard.
I found a setting to switch the key functions, but it still doesn't help with the other differences. I just have to learn to mentally change gears when using a Mac.
Moving the cursor by words, for example, is ctrl-cursor on PC, but option-cursor on Mac. So switching Ctrl/Fn doesn't help with that.
Not to mention tapping on the screen to select something does not go well on the Mac...
Over a decade in and I haven’t internalized the text selection and cursor movement differences TBH. You can rebind the system key combos though if it really bothers you that much. I’m just not really using the keyboard as much anymore now that I use a trackpad for everything.
You can use Linux-like text navigation on macOS: ctrl-a goes to the start of the line, ctrl-e to the end, ctrl-f forward, etc.
I mostly use Windows, macOS second, with some Linux in distant third. Yet those Unix-style bindings are what I miss most in Windows applications that don’t support remapping.
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So far my only gripe with MacOS is my inability to remember how to copy paste.
The command key is basically the control key in MacOS and most of your basic commands are the same.
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Part of me wishes I was a Windows user because Microsoft gives so many good reasons to switch to Linux. But even though I don’t use any of Apple’s services, I’m just too well off on macOS, got no real reason to switch.
Not saying macOS will never suck, and it already does in some aspects, but its suck factor has been pretty stable for the last 15 years I’ve been using it.
It’s really sad that macOS is the only major operating system that functions on API calls for UI elements and system calls. Part of what makes windows awful is the terrible UI inconsistencies between apps. 3rd party app can’t hook into the system or each other easily because there are so few shared APIs. It’s crazy that macOS has the best utility apps all because of the shared API library and that the other operating systems don’t want to copy or unify with them.
Exactly. Literally the dumbest thing they could do. All they had to do was keep their working hardware and put Linux on it. FFS
Went to Linux on the old laptop. A smoothing transition as we were using Libreoffice for a few years before. For most people it is not the OS but the apps that stop you moving off Windows.
Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
Well, at this point more like out of the fire into the frying pan
Apple's AI screwup may end up being the best move the company made since the switch to Apple silicon.
its like slipping on a banana to avoid a slash of a chainsaw
What was the apple ai screw up? I may have missed or forgotten this story.
Basically it's garbage, Siri effectively just posts your query, sans context, to chatGPT. What comes back is hilariously bad. If they'd integrated it "correctly", it'd probably be as bad as MS. I've played with it a bunch in the store, though my device (intel) doesn't support it at all.
Windows home and pro editions are now just billboards. Like literal billboards. I don’t know how people put up with this much garbage in their system. Microsoft is actively working against their users. Whatever users say they don’t like, Microsoft triples down on it.
They're not acting against their users, it's just that non-enterprise consumers are a complete afterthought. I.e. less of a "fuck you" to individual consumers and more of a "who the fuck do you think you are?".
Why market or design an OS for individual consumers when the majority of your revenue is going to come from volume licensing by manufacturers that are fulfilling bulk purchases from corporate America/higher-ed?
!linux@programming.dev is right there!
There are very few sellers that have pre-installed Linux laptops which is what majority of people buy. So Linux is automatically discarded as an option in all those sales.
This is the way!
For anyone who has to/wants to stay on win 10 for whatever reason, here's a FOSS guide for enabling ESU updates, of course brought to you by a furry.
https://bsky.app/profile/socksthewolf.com/post/3m2depgbys22e
"Despite"
Privacy on Windows is EOL, so Windows is too.
If you really need x86 for games, there’s SteamOS.
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Or Linux
I wish there was a Linux or BSD OEM that sells the same build quality/QA/QC as Apple.
I only know of https://system76.com/ but have no personal experience with them.
I do. They're garbage cleo laptops with a badge and no support. I had one, when it failed they refused to stand behind it at all.
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Apple PC
So many Apple users' eyes just twitched
Makes sense, I did. Granted, mine was an old model for $40 that I have now upgraded to 16GB of RAM, but yes. Good plan.
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