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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember about news of some Israeli intelligence operatives who jogged around their HQ only to be outed by their tracks on Strava.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

I remember army officers and cia folks, specifically. It wouldn't surprise me that israel got caught as well.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Shit I’m scared of my home speakers echo locating my furniture and the size of my domicile

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I live in a prefabricated home that is a different color than my neighbor's. Can I gift them one of these robots to get a blueprint of their house? It is already easily googled but I feel that making a robot do it keeps them lower on the food chain.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 9 points 1 month ago
[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In case anyone's interested, there's actually open-source self-hosted robot vacuum firmware for select models

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

Such a boring dystopia :/

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

If you have a robot vacuum, and the robot vacuum makes a persistent map (as opposed to the older "dumber" models that just bounce around randomly), they all send that map back to some remote server. In fact, most of those robots won't even enable the mapping feature unless they're connected to the Internet (which is absolute bullshit considering most of those robots generate, process, and store that map locally, so there's literally no reason to send it off somewhere).

So your options are to just use the robot without ever connecting it to the Internet and be happy with the reduced featureset, root the robot and install Valetudo on it, or just vacuum manually. But until manufacturers are forced to let us actually own the smart devices they sell is, under no circumstances should you ever let one touch the Internet.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't understand why these devices need an internet connection?

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Some of these connect to a smartphone App through Wi-Fi. Connecting to internet and uploading stuff are not shown to the owner but might happen in the background.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We need bluetooth devices back, there's no reason for 99.999999% of devices to have your network password.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Exactly. Local connection. Why the fuck does it need access to some server somewhere? I am sorry... but if they have updates for their shit available they need different ways of making it available.

Also why the fuck does the company need audio recordings from your home? That is literally spy shit. And why does it need the layout? Even if they were doing it purely to improve their products and make them be able to work around confusing layouts and obstacles then that shit needs your full knowledge and consent... and you can withdraw consent at any time for any reason.

I am too tired to rant further.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

To upload a map of your home duh

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Because people are not taught the basics of Lan network vs Wan network and corporations love to exploit this.

During the aws outage i heard multiple people be upset with their isp because “the wifi is broken”

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[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean, this has been known about for pretty much all smart vacuums.

But who the fuck is going to use the layout of your house for anything?

[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The secret police

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"secret". Sweet summer child, you've been mapped down to your quarks for decades, and building plans have been at Town Hall since... Louis XIV?

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I've been looking into robotic lawnmowers, and they're basically the same. The more primitive ones have a hall effect sensor under their snout feeling for a wire you bury around the edge of your yard, and do the "go until you hit something, turn a random amount, repeat until low battery, follow perimeter to dock" or they require phoning home in some way, shape or form.

Meanwhile, some guy's got an open source system that runs on a Raspberry Pi on the mower itself.

I guess I'm willing to believe that some of the LIDAR or camera-only guided mowers need some serious processing power to create the maps they use for guidance around the yard, and that's more practical to do on the company's servers than on the device itself...except not really; we've got decently powerful ARM SoCs that don't cost much, don't take a lot of power to run, and can do that job. The reality is, you can't get a pedometer app for a smart phone that doesn't broadcast sensor telemetry to two continents these days.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I bought a $300 fake Roomba thing. It was on clearance.

And i fought against it for years. But ended it up coming in clutch for a lot of reasons.

It did not have an app, just a IR controller. Its pretty dumb. It bumps into everything. It gets stuck under things. I sometimes have to create a maze so it cleans a specific spot.

Its been a habit of mines to avoid anything with an app that requires internet access. But the product lines are shrinking, and I know at some point, if I want a Roomba, I'll need to invite always-on AI or whatever.

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