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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Am I too dumb to understand why sending cartographer data is wrong?

His model is iLife A11 that has Lidar. He probably has an app that is used to control robot and shows cleaning progression. Vac 100% Lidar'd his entire home and sent data to create map in the app.

How in the fuck he thinks it is getting that map? If his ass so smart to find a killswitch and reverse it, how come he doesn't grasp that map data is sent to a server though which he ca use vac app? Like in what world is it not obvious?

Not even gonna discuss about TOS he signed, or that it is general cheap brand cheap but super smart model for it's price.

Unless some FOSS firmware and software is installed, that thing most certainly will ping back home every chance it gets.

Sidenote: My TV now is offline cause when it kept calling home (ove 60% of my pi-holes querries of all time was TV), it would freeze due to pi-hole block. Once set offline - issue is gone. I also know my robo vac is pinging, but at the same time if I block it, I'll lose app controls which I wont do. Sadly, my vac doesn't support Valetudo.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think yes, to your first question. Couldn't it just crunch the lidardata locally to feed into cartographer, I don't understand why you don't understand that this is the issue.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

afaik the lidar data is crunched locally, then sent to the remote server for easy consumption

when those vacuums are flashed with valetudo, they can still make the map with lidar without internet connection

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yeah that issue has been around for at least a couple years now. Luckily my robovac doesn't have WiFi or bluetooth

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

I don't care if they map my house, just give me raw access to the data. Them having access to the speaker and mic, i'm more concerned about.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He’s going to have a heart attack to find out that the floor plan to most houses are available online and have been for a long time.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

With possibly objects in the house identified?

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[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I live in a prefabricated home that is a different color than my neighbor's. Can I gift them one of these robots to get a blueprint of their house? It is already easily googled but I feel that making a robot do it keeps them lower on the food chain.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Shit I’m scared of my home speakers echo locating my furniture and the size of my domicile

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember about news of some Israeli intelligence operatives who jogged around their HQ only to be outed by their tracks on Strava.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

I remember army officers and cia folks, specifically. It wouldn't surprise me that israel got caught as well.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago
[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, UCSC researchers used WiFi to detect a human heartbeat.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Such a boring dystopia :/

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't understand why these devices need an internet connection?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

To upload a map of your home duh

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Some of these connect to a smartphone App through Wi-Fi. Connecting to internet and uploading stuff are not shown to the owner but might happen in the background.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

We need bluetooth devices back, there's no reason for 99.999999% of devices to have your network password.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exactly. Local connection. Why the fuck does it need access to some server somewhere? I am sorry... but if they have updates for their shit available they need different ways of making it available.

Also why the fuck does the company need audio recordings from your home? That is literally spy shit. And why does it need the layout? Even if they were doing it purely to improve their products and make them be able to work around confusing layouts and obstacles then that shit needs your full knowledge and consent... and you can withdraw consent at any time for any reason.

I am too tired to rant further.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

If you have a robot vacuum, and the robot vacuum makes a persistent map (as opposed to the older "dumber" models that just bounce around randomly), they all send that map back to some remote server. In fact, most of those robots won't even enable the mapping feature unless they're connected to the Internet (which is absolute bullshit considering most of those robots generate, process, and store that map locally, so there's literally no reason to send it off somewhere).

So your options are to just use the robot without ever connecting it to the Internet and be happy with the reduced featureset, root the robot and install Valetudo on it, or just vacuum manually. But until manufacturers are forced to let us actually own the smart devices they sell is, under no circumstances should you ever let one touch the Internet.

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