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[–] mech@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean...the US-Americans today didn't immigrate, they were born in America.
And if they left, they would be immigrants somewhere else.
Throwing ordinary people out of the country they live in is always a bad solution.
(Yes, that includes Crimea and Palestine)

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

This is what you might call a joke

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

the anchor can stay, the boat can leave.

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Before endorsing something like this, maybe research about how statelessness is one of the things the UN is lauded for trying to end. It's like the peacetime equivalent of a war-crime. Stateless persons are absolutely not something we should try to make more of. It's a principle like self-determination that if someone is born and raised somewhere, they should never be forced to leave -- violating this is how you get an Israel/Palestine situation.

If you're very morally zealous, you are probably saying to this, "well fuck people who disagree -- they should just leave." Kinda naïve! If it were possible to arrange for that, a lot of conflicts in the world would never have started in the first place.

UN convention on stateless persons Statelessness (wikipedia)

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does this mean the person pictured crosses the Bering Strait back to Asia?

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

generally anti-colonialists aren't against colonizing areas that are uninhabited by humans. You could probably make this kind of joke work if you were to identify a pre-existing indigenous civilization that existed on the land before the person pictured's society did, but you'd have to do actual research.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never viewed anti-immigrant people as anti-colonist.

But leaving nature to nature is certainly something people advocate.

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

This is an anti-colonialist meme joking about people who are anti-immigration for other reasons

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

This. We can't be arbitrary about when someone is immigrating. Given there were two population groups that migrated before this third 'first' nation, their status as immigrants isn't really a debate; just a debate about when someone draws the line.

And if your line is drawn to allow one nation over another, you're just yanking the ladder up like the current regime wants to do.

[–] LoveCanada@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 week ago

It appears, by this standard, the only people who weren't immigrants were Adam and Eve. And they got kicked out.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

When do you leave...also?