So this is clearly personal to many people in this thread but I'm just going to point out objectively and non judgementally that Vaush and other participants misrepresent the argumemt made by the original poster.

The original poster specifically refers to men. Vaush's response either intentionally or unintentionally responds to to an argument not made by the original poster by referring to 12 year old boys.

This is actually fairly low level discourse because the entire reply chain is responding to a strawman. If anyone has any further insight I'd be happy to hear it. I think we need to elevate our reading comprehension if we're going to have meaningful conversations about this.

As someone raised as a white Christian male: no, I have never felt like people were calling me evil, shunning me, or pushing me away because I am white, Christian, or male. That is such a bullshit take and people need to not tolerate that persecution complex nonsense.

Assholes get called assholes for being assholes, and instead of any sort of introspection they blame it on them being "white" or "male," because to them being a white male means they get to be an asshole and everyone else just has to accept it.

I feel like "the right is willing to use manipulation, misinformation, and coercion on children while the left isn't" is not quite the argument these users think it is. Certainly we shouldn't be demonizing young white boys but tbh I've seen very little if any of that behavior. If a person gets censored and banned from communities because they shared the funny nazi emoji then that should be a learning moment for them, I don't think it should be in the hands of the minorities, which those children are actively harassing on public platforms, to be the Daryl Davis in their lives.

This is a civil discussion on the internet. It is possible it seems.

I like anarchy because I can trace a short line to a systemic failure in any instance

Left is so othering. They want to qualify and categorise everything and everyone they meet. Stick name and stat tags on everyone so they can easily see where they belong on a purity hierarchy (which they are obviously queen of)

Source: cishet intj whtmle veg/choice/vax millennial leftist.

Okay sure but Vaush is an asshole. He says the r slur in almost every stream and the only one i watched [live] he went on for like 5 minutes about how he doesnt like to be in poor neighborhoods because "the layabouts make me uncomfortable and sad"

Be nice and encouraging when talking about people. Saying mean-sounding things puts people off. Yes, even when it's really important people get the severity of something. Talk about the people who are suffering and the people who are actively doing it. Encourage people to think about how they might end up doing terrible things and how to prevent that. I know it feels so fucking wrong to be a politician about your most basic values, but there's a reason politicians are the way they are: they get shit done that way.

we need to talk to each other like we're babies. and babies are the smartest people of all, deserving the utmost respect and kindness.

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