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[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

TBH I would consider one of these. I've been thinking about using discs for long-term backups, and I've also been planning to start buying music and stuff more instead of effectively renting from streaming services.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Most writable disks have a poor life. the only good long term backup option is lots of redundancy and regular check that they are all readable - recreating what isn't before you lose it

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, gotta use ISO/IEC 18630 certified discs and burner to ensure longevity.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's a good start, but the most effective backup is manually carving the binary contents of a file onto steel plates that are many miles long.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Steel decays pretty quickly. The most durably data storage medium we've figured out is still ceramics

[–] exu@feditown.com 4 points 1 week ago

Metal can not be changed by Ruin

Maybe wrong community for this

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Well there we go.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly I just go for redundant drives and 3-2-1 backups, I remember looking at those pioneer bluray discs when they were announced and quickly deciding it wasn't worth the cost.
Your steel plate backup system sounds intriguing though - maybe it can be used as wallpaper? "What's that on your walls?" "My wedding photos"

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The great part of that idea is that no one will think you're crazy when they see painstakingly carved rows of binary covering every surface of your home.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Will they know it's binary? Surely the dots would be so small it looks like noise unless there's an emerging pattern from file headers etc

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

CDs are rated for 10–30 years,, Blurays for 50–80. YMMV with cheap low quality disks, of course.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As someone else mentioned, CDs, DVDs, and especially BDs are supposed to last quite a while. I'd obviously burn more than one though and check them occasionally (and probably throw most of it on encrypted cloud storage in case there's a fire or something).

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

I recently found some cheap CDs and DVDs that I backed my stuff up on 17 years ago and the data was pristine 👌

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it better to buy a BD/DVD drive for desktop? This way you can rip movies/music and access them on any device.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

I mean, I'd still have the physical collection then, which would just be sitting there picking up dust. Even with it ripped, I'd probably still want to use the disc sometimes. I also tend to displace things like CD drives if I don't use them for a while lol (I have a CD/DVD drive somewhere, but I have no idea where I put it), which makes the backup idea sort of problematic.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've looked pretty extensively into this. My plan is to get a disk toaster and pick up some refurb drives, around 8tb or so. The cost of a good bluray burner is about $160, and each 100yr disc is $11 for 50gb. Meanwhile the toaster is $30, and HDDs are about $150 new for 8tb, less with refurbs. I just know that one coaster run of a bluray burn would send me off to a tirade. Less space, less cost, less risk of damage, and more likely to be useable in the future. Bonus for read speeds and rewrite ability.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think if you've got a ton of data, that does make more sense. I personally don't think I have much that I think is super important though (at the least atm, it'd mostly be photos). The drives will likely die earlier though.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

My photos rest on my 8tb WD Pro NAS drive, and OMV does a backup on another smaller 2TB drive. I also have an external 2TB for occasional extra backups. I plan on converting all my dvdr and cdrs into hdd data. Sadly, a bunch of my cdrs are kaput, rotted and falling apart. I never realized how important it was to buy burnable media that uses chemicals instead of organic dyes. I guess I just assumed 15yrs ago it was all chemical.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Never had a BD drive in a laptop, went straight from a DVD/CD drive to no optical drives. Does Windows even support BD copyright protection these days?

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Literally the only legitimate way to watch encrypted Blu-rays on Windows is with CyberShot PowerDVD.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Nope. It will fail to read. You have to use community software along with definitely illegitimate key files to decode most any commercial release. On top of this, some predatory releases will scramble the chapters unless you know which playlist to select out of hundreds, which is information passed to PowerDVD and literally no one else (within the PC software space).

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Key word legitimate. Without the community key files it doesn’t do anything on its own.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've never had a BD anything. Unless the PS4 did them, but I'd never had needed to know.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 3 points 1 week ago

yes PS4 was bluray.

I put one in my laptop over a decade ago just because I could. I didn’t ever get any actual use out of it. It was an utter waste of money but party because I didn’t know what software I needed to use it, which was due to me not knowing I needed proprietary software to properly use it to watch movies.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where can I get one for my ThinkPad L440? It has an optical bay only occupied by a dummy.

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Look at your favourite online retailer. All SATA laptop drives are intercompatible.