Feeding ones' family
this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2025
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I wouldnt have the issue because i wouldnt take a job if it crossed my ethical or moral lines. You always have a choice.
I'm shocked at how many people are saying its fine. The options aren't work at a place or starve. Why are we acting like there are no decent businesses and acting like you can't start your own. Most companies arent bad, they just do standard boring everyday services.
You dont live in lockheedville where the only employer is Lockheed and they force you to design more efficient killchains or you'll starve and die.
For some people it's take that job or starve. It's nice that you live somewhere that gives you options but for a lot of people the only places hiring are morally questionable.
Nah i dont agree. There are 10000s of jobs available in most places so I dont buy that. You may have to take a paycut or work a harder job but the option is there in most cases. You can always start your own little business.
Morally questionable is different that fundamental ethical disagreement. I feel that these are places you cannot work at. You'd be completely comprising your values which is fine you can technically still hold those values but it makes your values meaningless.
It would be like me saying that I'm against factory farming then working at a factory farm 40hr a week doing the exact thing I'm supposedly against. I'd have to ask myself am I really against this. Or working for ice under the trump admin. You have to admit that your value is meaningless there because when faced with the choice your values crumbed.
I don't think a weapons manufacturer is comparable to qualcomm or microsoft personally. I believe in foss and democracy but im not anti proprietary tech I just don't think people or governments should use them. There are certainly corps I would less want to work for. I mean I still work on windows machines even though I now run primarily on linux and im not even sure if any phones don't use qualcomm chips.
Hey, I'm just trying to make my nut, man.
There's no ethical production under capitalism
More seriously, when I was working in the oilsands, the answer was: grudgingly, and only until I could get into a more palatable line of work
I like having a roof over my head and not starving to death. It really is that simple a transaction.
I work it with a distaste in my mouth and mischievous internal sabotage.
I work at a company the supplies some stuff to those companies and idk. Our stuff doesn't really matter too much like we're not giving them explosives or something but we're aiding their process.
In the long run, I plan to hop out of this company in to something else but for now, I work in IT and even if they have me or don't, I don't really affect that side of the business. So it helps if I'm distanced away for it but doesn't bring me comfort.
Might be better for your mental health and conscious if you pick something else though
Well, you gotta grow your career somehow, and ideology alone doesn't mean crap if you have no power to manifest it.