Before anyone says that the truck should not have been doing that, ask yourself… Could ICE have just backed up and waited for something to happen that could justify opening fire?
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October 23, 1983, two truck bombs killed 307, US/French servicemembers and civilians in Beirut.
Also was Coast Guard who opened fire, not ICE.
You could say that about anything.
"we had to shoot the minivan because in Iraq these have had bombs in them."
"we had to shoot that kid, because he may have had a bomb in his backpack."
"sure, that lady just had to die. She may have had a gun. Who could have known it was just a remote control?"
The reality is that the people shooting are helping kidnappers, Nazi's, and generally evil people. Of course they aren't going to show patience or civility towards civilians. That's not why the president has injected them into that situation.
They are military, and they are there to wage war on Americans.
Except it's the gate of the military base and there are procedures with dealing with these things. I get it. I don't think you should just shoot anything, but there is a line. This was the entry to the base, to the bridge that gets you on the base. The bridge itself is sensitive, and obviously the base is. This wasn't like cops unloading on a dude trying to get away because he's got warrants out. I just feel like the potential for negative results was much higher.
And these were CG security, if my understanding is correct. This wasn't Trump's hit squad, these were the dudes who have been guarding the entry point to the base for as long as the base has been there. It's literally their job, guard the entry.
I appreciate all your hypotheticals, but this real life situation is someone attempting to force entry onto a US military installation. That's the real situation, and this is how that sort of behavior is dealt with across the globe.
I'm mad about ICE too, I'm just not sure what they have to do with this situation, other than the protest being nearby. I'm not sure how the base security are helping kidnappers and being Nazis, unless your beef is with the military. Shit, I'll even say it's okay to have some beef against the military and how they've been used, but the Coast Guard? I can't think of any reason to hate on the Coast Guard.
I can find lots of stuff that hasn’t happened in the United States
And some might have even been in the past 40 years.
It happened to a US military base in a foreign nation, which, for all intents and purposes, is US soil. This truck was backing it's way onto a US base, refused to comply with orders. It got EOF'd. I appreciate everyone wanting to hate ICE, I think they're a bunch of bitches, but unless someone's has some legit proof this is some sort of false flag or anything, this is pretty SOP.
If bitches is the most extreme you think they are, it doesn’t surprise me you’re simping for them
It’s possible they thought the truck was full of explosives, and was trying to blow up the bridge to the Coast Guard island.
Sure, still not an excuse.
“It’s possible that black man had a gun in his pocket so I just decided to shoot him”
Congratulations, you passed. Here is your badge, gun, mask.
The driver was approaching them kinda aggressively and weirdly in a place where no cars should be at that time.
If you want to make an analogy it’s like a guy approaching the cops while threateningly waving a weapon.
Disagree.
It's also possible they thought the truck was full of robot centipedes.
What do we learn from this? This kind of U-Haul truck is a viable armored vehicle for reversing into a line of gunfire because this dude didnt even get hit at all after like 30 rounds were fired at the car.
I think another source reported he was shot in the stomach. And I saw a video of the truck after it was found—there were many bullet holes through the cab.
Edit: A later report clarifies that it was the bystander who was shot in the stomach, while the driver had a more minor injury.
The photographer reportedly went and inspected the vehicle after it returned, where he saw bullet holes but no traces of blood.
I didnt look at other articles so i just assumed this was correct. Maybe he got out before the blood reached the seat.
Really, just pile up a layer of sandbags or whatever against the back door and you would be quite good to go.
So would that work? Sandbag armored vehicle sounds pretty heavy
Bullets dont do very well in a fight vs solid objects, the more solid the worse they perform
There's a guy on the tube that shoots at a 6" square box of sand It stops almost everything...
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It's already a truck.
Sandbags are remarkably effective at stopping small arms fire, at least as long as you can keep the sand in them. If you only stacked up the back wall of the truck right in front of the door and optionally if you only did it to waist height (you'd have to lie down behind them) it would absolutely work.
A typical hardware store sandbag is 60 or 80 pounds, and to stack up to a height of, say, four feet you'd probably need around 3200 pounds worth of them or so (40 bags) based on some rough back of the envelope math and hazy recollection of the approximate size of an 80 lb bag of sand. That may exceed the recommended load weight of your small box truck per the rental agreement paperwork or whatever the hell, but I don't think in reality that would cause even a small U-Haul truck to struggle much.
Doing all four walls of the rear of the truck would probably take an inordinate amount of sand and wouldn't be too viable.
Didn't mythbusters prove phone books were effective armor?
Watch the whole video, bullets made it all the way through.
This entire thing is so weird. If I would be a mouth breathing ICE agent, I would have put Charlie Kirk’s carcass in this U haul, provoked someone into shooting it and waited until the orange idiot declared California a antifa terror state.
And all this wouldn’t even be the dumbest thing you heard all week.
This will only get worse. Trump wants violence, and this entire country will descend into violence eventually if the GOP voters don't wake the fuck up and join us in trying to stop it.
Fuck ICE and all, but.... Why would you back a uhaul up toward a line of squad cars like that? What a supremely stupid thing to do.
ICE was driving the truck. Creating this headline is the purpose.
Perhaps they did not think that their government would open fire on them.
This action made no sense. And dude just drove a block forward, parked and walked away. Sus as fuck.
Maybe he has to be out of his flat ASAP.
No, Nazis and ice favor u haul and other nondescript rentals.