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I've noticed sometimes that there's some half-baked videos or blogs or whatever that purport this or that frugal trick, but if you look at the time or math, it's not actually frugal for you.

What are some examples of that you've come across? The things that "aren't worth it"?

For me it's couponing. (Although I haven't heard people talk about it recently--has it fallen out of "style", or have businesses caught up to the loopholes folks used to exploit?)

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 99 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's more of a generalized rule but:

Assume that your own time has value.

A lot of "frugal" tips operate off the assumption that you can spend your own time and it doesn't cost anything. But your time is valuable. Time spent trying to save a few bucks should be considered working time; ask yourself how much you would get paid by your job for the same amount of time. Maybe you enjoy doing whatever the thing is, so it can be considered recreation, but if it's some difficult or mind numbing slog, then that doesn't necessarily mean that you actually saved yourself anything, because you weren't getting paid to do work, and you could have been doing something more rewarding instead.

[–] chaples55@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I feel this way about cooking. I hate cooking. It takes a lot of time. And lots of cleanup time. And time spent planning and shopping. Plus the tools, ingredients, and power/gas/water used all cost money. With all that in mind, a $9 bowl of chipotle is significantly cheaper by my estimation than cooking an equivalent myself.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I'm with you on cooking something like one meal. If I'm going to get out a bunch of stuff in the kitchen and put in that much effort, then I had better be eating for at least a few days off of what I make. Casseroles, stews, big pots of pasta, and holy hell was I excited when I learned how much curry I could make in one big crock pot and then put that on rice for like two weeks' worth of meals.

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I just cook stuff that basically cooks itself. Crockpots, pasta, certain veggies and meats on the oven. After doing them many times I already know the timings for everything so I just put alarms to remind me of turning the fire off/flipping them in the oven once and that's it. Doing something else in between. Technically speaking you spend only a couple minutes actively cooking for each meal that way. Just don't forget to set the alarms or it's burnt (and move the particular meat from the freezer to the fridge the night before)

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Then you need to learn how to cook properly, or get more experience. By the time you have driven to and from chipotle, and factor in that time, the cost of gas, the wear and tear on your car. Cooking is significantly cheaper. We only cook from scratch at home, and it rarely takes more than 15 mins to whip up a good meal that tastes better than most things you can buy, even sit down restaurants. When I cook, I clean as I go normally, so clean up aftewards is fast. If you clean up immediately after, clean up is fast. Time spent eating doesn't count. 20 minutes, McDonalds drive thru takes 20 mins.

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, to me, that would be incredibly fast prep or your meals are pretty simple. Even easy meals I've made a million times take me half an hour. Most take one hour to cook and I still feel like I'm rushing around.

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[–] chaples55@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I live somewhere where I have access to dozens of restaurants within a 5 minute drive and I can order ahead to avoid waiting. Cooking really is not an activity I enjoy so I have no interest in practicing unless I have to. That is not to say I never have food at home. I regularly make healthy super smoothies, sandwiches loaded with greens, prepared salads, and whole grain cereals. I wouldn't consider that cooking though.

I'm not looking to invalidate the experience of anyone who is good at or enjoys cooking. Just sharing my opinion that this is one area that is very commonly recommended for saving money that I personally don't find worth my time.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Businesses have caught up and fixed the exploits.

For me, it's dried beans. Beans are an excellent source of protein and fiber, and it doesn't get much cheaper per serving than bulk dried beans.

But rinsing, soaking over night, and then boiling, only to end up with way more beans than we will consume, and canned beans are almost as good and almost as cheap.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We use a pressure cooker for our dried beans. 20-40 minutes depending on the bean. You don't have to soak them overnight when using a pressure cooker. I ensure that each batch we make is consumed within five days.

Canned beans are considerably more expensive based on the amount we eat.

If you only eat a can here and there, it's probably not worth making them from dry.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I've found pressure cookers are the only way I can get beans tender. (I'm not a great cook.)

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[–] Redditgee@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Probably not frugal, but instant pot changed my life, in regards to soaking beans. What a time/effort saver.

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[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago (22 children)

Searching for the cheapest gas station. Too much time and gas.

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[–] Rusky_900@reddthat.com 41 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Cloth nappies/diapers. Cleaning them is a black hole for personal time.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The manufacture of 2.5 years of disposable diapers has a lower carbon footprint than the energy usage to launder cloth diapers over the same time period.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/291130/scho0808boir-e-e.pdf

[–] Boxtifer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So it's still a win if the energy source is renewable itself.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

What about the difference in waste as well? Talk about cherry-picking outcomes to make your product/position look good. It's like soft drinks advertising that they're fat-free or chips/crisps saying they're sugar-free

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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I personally don't mind much using cloth diapers.

We quickly rince them after use so it does not smell unlike dirty diapers in the bin that start smelling after a day (we live in a hot country)

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Flights with connections. Flying has become so tedious, frustrating, stressful, that saving money by spending yet more hours dealing with it, just isn’t worth it. I’d sooner cancel the trip

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I saved $500 per ticket on an international flight for my girlfriend and I and the extra connection should have only added a few hours to the trip.

Then they cancelled my flight, and I got stranded in another country (Canada), spent over 10 hours in the airport getting a new flight, lost two days of the trip, which were the best days, lost the money I paid for the hotel for those days, and I only get a few days off a year and that was how I spent several of them.

The Europeans and Canadians on the flight got their flight comped. Being an American, I had to fight for a meal ticket that didn't even cover the cost of two sodas. This was pre-pandemic too.

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[–] Wooster@startrek.website 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not sure if this counts, per se, but Solar Panels. Specifically, via a loan.

My electric bill is insane, thanks to the powers of capitalism and monopoly. So I figured installing solar panels would be a good investment. Sure it takes ten years to break even, but I’d rather be paying my way through that than paying my electric utility.

Well, the problem I ran into was that the interest on a loan would effectively negate any headway I was hoping to make per month.

I still plan on doing solar, but not before either interest rates at least quarter themselves or I save up enough to practically pay for it up front.

[–] jonne 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Depending on where you live, the feed in tariffs are a scam as well, so you better make sure you use any power you generate instead of feeding it back to the grid (either by shifting use or installing a battery).

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[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a little different from the others on this list, but a lot of DIY stuff for parties/weddings. The money you're saving is negated by time lost, not to mention unless you have unlimited time/ no job and are able to thrift everything, the components for DIY aren't that inexpensive. For my sister's wedding, we did everything ourselves. Everything from literally painting the venue, collecting/creating every table scape, my dad built the stage and dance floor, all the way through setting up the hundreds of little desserts on the day of. It was all wonderful and lovely. And took a massive amount of time and labor across several families. When you factor in the value of people's time, it was not less expensive than mine. We rented everything and it was so nice not to stress about dressing every corner of the room or decorating the bar, or making sure we didn't run out of ice on the day of. We still chose super frugal options because the wedding industry is a scam, but we just paid for everything.

Sometimes it's worth it just to pay people to do stuff. Value your time and mental health more than money.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Growing your own food. The only way to make that shit pay is to groom a cult to do it for you, large-scale.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only way to make that shit pay is to groom a cult to do it for you, large-scale.

They're called grand parents

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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Growing your own greens and herbs is super easy with a hydroponic setup, but obviously you have to invest the time into getting it set up. There are a lot of pre-made options available these days, though, so it's not as much work as it used to be even just a few years back. Saves me a lot of trips to the grocery store.

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[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The cheapest food is always a massive rip off. It doesn't matter if you're willing to settle for something that doesn't taste as good. The cheapest food has been stripped down to such nothingness that you need to eat 3x more to stay alive. It doesn't work for the same reason you can't just drink water and feel full.

[–] Sertou@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on what kind of food you’re talking about. Whole foods like potatoes, lentils and beans are filling, nutritious and inexpensive. Cheap processed foods frozen pizza are basically edible polyester.

[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about frozen pizza. I bought the cheapest bagels a few times, and they skimp on them so hard they're like Sonic rings, and I had to eat two or three at a time. But they're not half the price. So despite being cheaper, the daily bagel expense is higher than if I buy real ones.

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

The cheapest option is always cheapest for a reason. Incrementally so the amount cheaper it is than the average.

[–] chaples55@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Doesn't necessarily mean it's cheaper for a bad reason though. There are often instances where the cheaper option can also be the better option.

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[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I always thought couponing looked obnoxious.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't care if I save $0.35 per grocery trip or $35. I really don't. And I'm definitely not wealthy! But when it comes to all those valuable pieces of paper, I've decided I'm not making the cashier scan and verify them one-by-one, the people behind me in line wait the extra time, the bookkeeper add them up and send them in, and then whatever clearing house wage-slave collect and destroy them.

I realize that sounds judgemental, but that's just my threshold. I genuinely feel everyone needs to decide how they want to live their life...

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 13 points 2 years ago

I worked for a big chain store. Like, a really big chain store, but not that one.

At the end of the night, they would collect all the coupons from the registers, weigh them, and throw them away.

The store would get credited based on the weight.

[–] LongPigFlavor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Using things outside of their intended purposes. I live in a gated community with my folks. Our house borders an apartment complex community, the border is a fence followed by a hedge in our backyard. We have several fruit trees in our backyard including avocados and mangoes. During fruiting season, avocados will drop and fall over the fence. My mom uses a pvc pipe with a kitchen knife taped to one end to use as a spear to retrieve avocados over the fence on the other community's side. 5+ kitchen knives have been broken by doing this. I recently bought a 30ft fruit picker to collect fruit before they drop, so hopefully that helps to alleviate the problem.

DOCAZOO DocaPole 7-30 Foot (30 ft Reach) Fruit Picker and Telescopic Extension Pole for Apples, Avocados, Oranges, and Other Fruit Trees https://a.co/d/hZUlhHK

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