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I just don’t feel comfortable building a robot army here, and then being ousted because of some asinine recommendations from ISS and Glass Lewis, who have no f**king clue. I mean those guys are corporate terrorists. Lemme explain the core problem here, so many of the passive funds vote along the lines of what ISS and Glass Lewis recommend. Now, they have made many terrible recommendations in the past that if those recommendations had been followed would have been extremely destructive to the future of the company. Now, If you’ve got passive funds that essentially defer responsibility for the vote to Glass Lewis and ISS, then you can have extremely disastrous consequences for a publicly traded company if too much of the publicly traded company is controlled by index funds. It’s de facto controlled by Glass Lewis and ISS. This is a fundamental problem for corporate governance, because they’re not voting along the lines that are actually good for shareholders. That’s the big issue, I mean, that’s what it comes down to. ISS Glass Lewis corporate terrorism. -Elon Musk, Tesla Q3 shareholder conference call, October 22, 2025

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[–] cyrano@piefed.social 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Me too Elon, I'm not feeling comfortable with you building a robot army

[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago

"Robot army" from the guy who gave us the Cybertruck? I'm not worried.

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[–] amos@mander.xyz 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I just want this guy to die. Oh, I will be so happy when it happens.

And all the other ones as well.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hey errr maybe the richest man in the world with nazi views should not have a robot army to begin with?

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Any day now Tesla is gonna be renamed Hyperion

[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

Man who can't buld fully self driving cars wants to build a f@*king robot army? I'll pass. How about give him NO money so he can't afford to build them in the first place.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This guy is so desperate to be called the first trillionaire, it's just really pathetic.

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[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But I was told that rich people like musk and Trump weren't swayed by money because they had enough... 😂

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sociopathic Oligarchs have a serious form of OCD/ Hoarding Disorder, that makes them crave even more money, no matter how much they have.

If they were hoarding cats, or rusty cars, or old refrigerators, or piles of scrap metal, etc., the authorities would intervene, and get them help for their mental illness.

But if they are hoarding money on a historically mind-blowing scale, they call them a successful businessman, and give them government grants and tax breaks.

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[–] SW42@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago
[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope he doesn't start any trade federations and blockade Naboo.

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[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have a trillion dollars down in my basement you can have Elon.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

I fucking hate this guy got off the hook. He fell out of the media so fast it makes me sick to think how complete the ruling class's power is.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

LOL

Elmo Musk literally is not an engineer or even understands basic engineering. All the real world engineering done at his company is done by actual engineers

What is his part in all those processes at jos companies, you ask?

Lying.

Literally lying. Its the only talent that Mr. Elmo has. Its the one thing he constantly does, at levels comparable to Trump.

Most claims he makes about any of his companies products are just plain lies. Tesla full self driving? Not even close, and by now i wonder if they're actually capable of getting a Tesla off a parking lot without crashing it, let alone do a full cross country.

Same for SpaceX, where we definitely will go to Mars!never mind that reaching low earth orbit is about 1% of that task and he still can't do that without blowing up his starshits. Hey, at least they blew up a banana over the Indian ocean.

Wanna know what Elmo's contributions are?

Cyber truck.

Launching the car that was supposed to be for the founder of Tesla into low earth orbit just to he an asshole

The "idea" to use intercontinental ballistic rockets to transport people to the other side of the world "in 30 minutes". This one I really really really do want him to try because tickets are CEO only expensive and nothing would make me laugh more than a bunch of stealing assholes all paying a million or so to just blow up on the launchpad.

Talking about launchpads, remember that Florida launch with a starship with a boat load of engines that also ~~failed~~ was a complete success because "it left the launchpad" and anything beyond that was extras? Yeah, that launchpad was absolutely obliterated, cars parked various kilometers away got pelted by concrete debris, an ecological area got polluted, and the launchpad was left in rubble because Elmo decided that flame diverters, you know, those things used since like the sixties of the previous century really weren't necessary.

That is of course keeping in mind that he US tax payer paid 3 billion to take the US to the moon and well, that too is about at 1-2% mission completed, there is nothing remotely ready.

Do I even have to mention Hyperloop? "Its just another air hockey table, its not that hard!"

Meanwhile he keeps asking Tesla for a trillion dollars as well, even though he just got a gold package from Tesla that was light the highest payout in human history, even though Tesla makes a fraction of the cars that large brands make, ans even though he sent the extremely overvalued company (overvalued thanks to his constant lying about aaaalll the great things that are right there ready, just around the corner if you only pay me more money!!) right of a cliff with his Nazi antics combined with the laughable Nazirustbucket he designed..

This is the guy asking for just a trillion dollar bro, I will make this work, bro! TRUST ME!

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You forgot to mention, that was was fired from PayPal(?) for being incompetent.

And the engineers he hires are either not that great, or (more likely) are having to play fast and loose due to unrealistic expectations. Like the original hyperloop demo that was setup years ago for a competition, instantly rusted and was secured poorly. It's since been destroyed.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Yeah he did, I thought I mentioned it but there is so much to say about this horrible man..

The Hyperloop thing was never ever going to work as even high schoolers could have seen the long list of practical issues with it, prohibiting it from ever getting even in the direction of being real. It's a fundamentally flawed project

Making a (partial) vacuum machine 3-4 meters in diameter and 600km long? Won't happen, we can't even do a fraction of a % for that

Having a 600km tube in the sun will move your endpoints around by hundreds of meters throughout the day due to the metal warming up and expanding

That same tube will also be warmed up more on the top than the bottom, causing that tube to try and warp itself into a circle

So you do have your 600km partial vacuum tube? Awesome, now how do you get that ~~pod~~ train in there, or how do you get the people into that train (or out of it) without breaking your vacuum?

Even with a partial vacuum, when moving that train over 600km will cause a pressure buildup in front of it what will become a problem

This entire design is a terrorists wet dream. I need one rifle of sufficient force to puncture that metal tube and the next train that comes in will end up hitting a hammer.

And there is lots more but I will try hard not to make this post too crazy long

Meanwhile we could have had normal trains but without having a source for it, I do recall reading multiple times that musk didn't wanted trains because they'd compete with his shitty Tesla cars, and that being the reason why he whipped this up. So now over the past two decades, China has been building railways like there is no tomorrow and now has. Huge network of high speed rail while the US (and Canada, Mexico) have basically and practically nothing. But they have cars, yaaaaaayyyy...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the PayPal one is so spot on.

He had a company that I guess was like CitySearch that no one ever heard of and managed to win a lottery of selling it to Compaq who thought they had to do something in this whole dotcom thing.

Then he founded 'x.com', a failure of an online bank while Paypal took off. Then, somehow, in the wake of being merged in he talked the company into letting him be in charge, despite his company pretty much the relative failure in that relationship, and he nearly tanked it before being kicked out. Despite this for a long time he got credit as 'the paypal guy', despite his only contribution being almost tanking it after losing to it initiallly in the market. Again, won the lottery because he had such a share and eBay tossed so much money at it.

He's supremely successful at taking credit from others when things work out.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago

Elon Musk in charge of a robot army?

I've seen this movie sooo many times, and it never ends well.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 1 week ago

I had to check to see if I was eating an Onion. Turns out, Ol' ketamine fried Musky truly did say all of this.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like they are getting on with their plan of eradicating all but the 1%

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[–] tibi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He has enough money to pay an actual army

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why this people never get cancer or horrible accidents?

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

They succeeded in making "billion" the new million. Now, they're trying to make "trillion" the new billion."

[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I need 1000 Bitcoin to control the totally real AGI you should be scared of. Like really real and scary. Just around the corner guys. And it says I need those 1000 Bitcoin to control it.

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

Extremely destructive to the future of the company, you say? Go on...?

[–] moonluna@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This martian wants to put chips in people's brain, and he wants a trillion dollars to make some future terminators. He better stfu and go to Mars.

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah, well according to the Tesla board, he'll get paid $1 trillion if he makes Tesla the best selling car on the planet earth.

Just do it with your own money, Elon. All you have to do is one thing to get it. C'mon, "I love Telser," right? Run with that and see what you get.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fortunately he isn't going to build a robot army. His cars can barely follow the road so I can't imagine his robots would present much in the way of of a threat, except quite possibly in the extent that they would stand on your foot although even then they'd probably fall over.

There has never been another individual who's ability and ego are so at odds

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So he's basically Justin Hammer at this point.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I just don’t feel comfortable building a robot army here, and then being ousted

Why would you ever have any control whatsoever in the first place? Do other arms manufacturers have a control for their missiles?

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

Not one more penny to this monster.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

He needs? Go pick yourself up by your bootstraps. Somehow I don’t think he means $1T of his own money.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The man is insane.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why do they even need musk? It's not like he is lead engineer or chief of design.

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[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fucking Ted Faro wannabe.

This is a real picture of Elon musk's dick.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is so stupid. If he has an issue with shareholder control, he has the money to buy the fucking shares. Sure, he has to pay the inflated bullshit price, but he can do that. Buy it and make it private, Musk. Then you can do whatever the hell you want with it, but it'll be your money on the line. If you actually believe in the product than it should be fine, right?

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

And none of those shareholders vote along lines that are good for society. You're going to probably kill us all someday with some bullshit business decision or another, directly or otherwise.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

A good chunk of shareholders deferring to public agencies that recommend based on societal good is imo the only way capitalism could “work”. Of course Elon is against it.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Was there ever a hope that the customers buying the robots would control them?

MechaHitler controlled robot in my home or business is not a good marketing plan. Chinese companies are well ahead in robotics, and they have manufacturing customers, battery and motor research/leadership, lower bill of materials, plenty of AI skill. No reason to believe Tesla will be first or better.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I want to go back to the 80s...

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Now is fine. We just need to forcefully put these wealthy fucks in their place.

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[–] timhayes1991@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Just wait until you have to pay a subscription to be on the "friend" list

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