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So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:

  • Reviews are mixed: not a great start
  • Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
  • 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
  • 175 euros DLC's: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there's another 175 fees for content?
  • purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

And they don't understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

This is just a random example. I've quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.

To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)

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[–] cron@feddit.org 189 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Take a look at the reviews, and find this insanity on the top:

need to be connected to online services even when you just want to play singleplayer campaign, and keep getting connection errors.

Thanks, I'm out.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So in theory.. you can not even play single-player campaign because of kernel level anti-cheat + internet connection. Even if Wine/Proton would allow you to start the game.

[–] cron@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True. According to protondb, it is not possible to even start the game.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 1 week ago

What a shame. But to be expected..

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Until the support stops and you have an unplayable game in your library.

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[–] Lazer365@feddit.nl 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you still play CoD nowadays then you are actively supporting the problem.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

From time to time I'll still look at their steam page during sales, because I'd like to play a blockbuster single player FPS where I can mindlessly mow down bad guys, with good story and production value.

But the price point and reviews always turn me off... Do you have a good alternative to recommend?

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If you want a CoD game, pretty much any CoD up through Black Ops 2 is still decent, but only if Activision actually let's the game go "on sale". Halo games have a fantastic story (up until 5 at least) and the Master Chief Collection is usually on sale for $10.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 47 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You are missing the most important issue. It only runs on Windows!

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

To be fair that icon doesn’t mean much of anything cuz you can just force compatibility in Linux and use proton, you just gotta manually do that in properties.

This is probably windows only because of kernel level anticheat though so it probably still holds up.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What computers and airconditioners have in common is that they become useless when you open windows.

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[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

Thats the neat part, just dont.

[–] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

You don't. You play single player games like me and get to experience cool stories instead of dopamine lacking rage inducing PvP games.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bro the CoD ship sailed years ago. They just don’t innovate and release the same shit year after year. Buy something else. I’d recommend Factorio.

[–] mellow@lemmy.wtf 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Quite the leap going from CoD to Factorio tho. 😅

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[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This kind of thing is why I dont get excited for steam sales now. Oh, 50% off Recent AAA Game? Haha, yeah, half off the base price, but the entire game is DLC now and each of those is still full price, and there's a dozen of them.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

AAA is just cash grab, they haven't been good or innovative games for a long, long time now. They are very good at marketing to the masses though and they have the pricing tiers laid out perfectly to extract as much money from people as they can.

They start off with their massive price tag like $70-80, plus the deluxe editions for $100-120 for any suckers who want a fucking extra skin. Then after a couple months when sales slow down, they put it on sale for like 20% off, then a couple months more, its like 40% off and so on. DLC has kind of fallen off, as they get people stuck in the battle pass and cosmetic buying loop instead (people are crazy).

If a AAA game looks interesting to you at all, you are literally best just waiting a few months or more, it's a win-win, you either buy it it's actual value or you get the reviews that its a disgusting broken mess or was completely over-hyped (it's these last two 99% of the time).

Steam sales are for getting them older games a bit cheaper, good indie games are worth their price tag multiple times over honestly so unless you are tight on money, I'd support the developer regardless of sales.

[–] mcforest@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe because there are still people who are not tired of Call of Duty, liked the predecessor and are still looking forward for a sequel and play it with their friends?

Oh wait, this isn't even the newest CoD? Probably they just forgot to update the prices. Probably forgot it even exists because there is a new one.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't forget, they just want full price forever.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nintendo Intensifies

[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 1 week ago

They dont want people buying the old games, even their 15 year old ones are still full price on purpose. They want you in the latest game each year, exposed to all the predatory extra-transactions, then they want you to do that again the next year and the next and the next... the games are not priced like that because they "forgot", it's a business strategy.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's for people with more money than brains.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey some of us are poor and this statement still describes us

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reviews are mixed: not a great start

More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It's basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So "mixed" means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn't, which is quite damning.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Short answer: you wouldn't buy this game, given your valid criticisms.

This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don't understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

When people may get into a competitive game, data shows that they commit to it as their primary game.

It becomes a part of their identity. You see things like Leage of Legends going strong despite a slow down in new players - people just commit to it for better or for worse, likely because most of the skills they’ve gained in it and friends they’ve made will not transfer to other games. Even other FPS games have different nuances that are non trivial once a player becomes serious about winning.

Take Wild Rift vs Mobile Legends Bang Bang. MLBB is objectively a worse rip off of League of Legends and the Chinese game Glory of Kings, but it was first to market on mobile. Now that League has released their mobile version with immense polish and quality, many mobile moba gamers just aren’t interested - they’re already totally invested in their main game, despite it being proved in court that it’s a cheap copy. (Not cheap as in $$$ though)

When you’re a kid, spending time on any competitive game will be fun (if you can handle the baseline toxicity) since you will start bad at most of them. When you get older there is a real cost to switching, you will not have as much fun until you build up the years of muscle memory that would be needed to even approach your skill at the previous game.

Because of the lock in, if a competitive game finds a sizeable enough player base and lasts a good handful of years, the devs essentially get free rein to milk their cow as they see fit.

That's why pirating AAA games is morally justified.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You need to get cod because everybody has cod. Its cod. You ever told a colleague/schoolfriend/acquaintance/anyone that you like video games? Their next question is "what prestige cod are you". Cod is love. Cod is life. Cod is the game. You're not a loser are you?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am, I play factorio and stellaris instead

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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Modern Warfare was peak CoD

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

It's not for you, you are not the target audience. The target audience is the people who buy MADDEN/FIFA every year.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 10 points 1 week ago

I wish Steam would put the 3rd-party requirements nice and obvious above the buy button. Along with "uses AI content", "in-app purchases" and "always online requirement" banners too. And more too, every game should be shamed before users get to the buy button.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can’t say I like how /Games often circles around negative attention rather than positive.

Activision spent billions on marketing so people will buy these stupid Ultra Editions. Even negative attention gets people thinking about and talking about the game.

Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention than this battle pass slop. Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

Theres an asymmetric game out as a demo, called Carnival Hunt. It has a really unique aesthetic, and isn’t all that fun yet, in part because of the formula being refined and players getting better at it. But I like the idea: Rather than TCM’s idea of unlocking doors towards an exit, the survivors, “bunnies”, are trying to climb the floors of a large building, with each method of ascending a floor requiring various tools and making noise. Some ways up are harder to set up but easier to repeat, others only work if the killer is ignoring them.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

The reality is that we are on a relatively small decentralized reddit clone.

We truly are the most exceptional exceptions.

Most people cant even begin to think of caring about what we care about.

Activision certainly doesnt.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Play Necesse or Abiotic Factor. Both just left early access recently and are great real games for good prices and aren't stuffed with the modern AAA bloat

Edit: I posted this just before reading the last paragraph... Well, glad it's taking off lol

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because you like Call of Duty so much it's the only game you ever play? 🤷‍♂️

I hate this shit, and it really sucks because I like competitive games, and all the competitive games made since, like, 2015 have been loaded with FOMO MTX bullshit which the devs exckusively focus on while balance and bug fixes get tossed to the way side. They are banking on players having more fun spending money than actually playing a fun game.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is plenty of shit on steam that I wouldn't buy, just don't buy it

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Ah it's very simple, you would buy this if you'd made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And they don't understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

They completely understand... the numbers saying that they're making money hand over fist and the number of people who care is sadly minuscule.

These games have hit a critical mass where people will casually buy them because they're friends are and so its a common ground game to play with buddies.

I don't think we can ever rely on consumers pushing back on anti consumer practises because of the reality of people.

Not everyone can afford to care about every issue.

As a result, boycotts are very unlikely to work in the modern world. There is just too much all at once for any one person to care about all of them, so even if you, lets say, care about 1% (a really high estimate) of things that are wrong in the world, and are willing to act, if we extrapolated that out to the whole population, the only things that would move would need to have double digit percentages of peoples care overlapping before anything stuck.

Really, the answer is that you simply need a government that cares about its people/consumer rights.

The USA and Canada, both are very far away from having governments like that.

Europeans are a lot luckier, but yet still, there is plenty to go.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why would anybody support genocidal imperial propaganda in their home?

I made that mistake years ago with COD. Never again.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.

Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)...

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Why would I buy this?

I can only think of one reason, because it's the game your friends are playing.

You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don't buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's CoD. You're asking why people drink coke if you don't like coke.

Also, steam FPS reviews are full of people on full tilt. Use better review sources.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I want a Call of Doody game where you're running around downtown of a major city looking for a public bathroom while prairie dogging a big old shit kind of like Far Cry 2's malaria mechanic.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 6 points 1 week ago

If I have to consult a pricing chart, I'm not buying your game.

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