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Let's say vaccines do cause autism or whatever. Is that REALLY problematic for your dog?
My dog ate something that made her vomit, then ate it again a few minutes later. Then cried because she couldn't eat her vomit.
this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2023
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Let’s say vaccines do cause autism or whatever.
Let's not.
I like that they chose a picture of a pug for this article. If these people really gave a shit about the health of their pets, they wouldn’t choose one that was bred with health problems.
To be fair, some pugs are rescues.
Good point. I already try to remember that when I see dogs with ~~cropped~~ docked tails.
All of the dogs I've ever had have been mutts, but I only ever adopted from a rescue or a shelter. Those are the only dogs that should be adopted and breeders should be stopped. My mother bought a Chinese Crested from a breeder and I was so pissed off at her. She's a really sweet dog, but that should not be encouraged.
I don't know about most dog breeds, but I do know that if you buy an aussie or blue heeler for actual work (and not because they're the 'it' dog of the moment, don't even get me started on that), it's beneficial for them to have docked tails.
They're used for herding cattle, and otherwise they run the same risks as a superhero with a cape. Best case scenario, they get it stepped on and severely injured; worst case, they get pinned and trampled.
My pug was a stray, I gave him a home. I don't feel badly about that. All my pugs have been rescues because people don't understand what caring for a pug is like.
You shouldn’t feel bad. You did an awesome thing!
Mine is quite agile and exercise tolerant and has fairly regular breathing, and he's really tall and long. I'm not saying healthy, he is diabetic, but he's very active even for a senior and likes long walks..
Here he is singing me the song of his people.
Thanks for sharing! I love it!
They really have wonderful personalities even if they shouldn't be bred. There's nobody funnier.
I didn’t realize the vaccine conspiracy theory community moved on to dogs, but I guess it’s not really surprising. Follow the advice of your vet, not your weird uncle’s Facebook posts.
Heck yes. My dogs just got their vaccinations updated yesterday! Easy way to help keep them healthy and safe.
People are stupid enough to take horse dewormer instead of vaccines. Do you really expect to treat their pets any smarter?
@FlyingSquid Good read. Thoughts on the vaccinations for things like fleas, ticks, heart worms?
I didn't know you could vaccinate against those. Are the vaccinations effective enough on their own or would you need to supplement? We give our dogs Trifexis, which seems to work really well (they hate it though). Never had a flea or a tick or any heartworm detected. Now our dogs don't socialize with other dogs, which I'm sure helps, but I don't think that's the sole reason.
If my vet recommended vaccinating my dogs for those... well, I go to my vet because I trust her judgment. Or I wouldn't go to her.
There is a seasonal medication for flea, tick, and heartworm. I just get the medication as part of my dog's yearly checkup. It's just a tablet I need to feed him once a month for the warm months. IDK if they are technically vaccines, but they are preventative.
Yeah, that's how Trifexis works. Not sure if that's what you're using.
I think your general point stands that preventative medicines of all kinds have high value. From a technical standpoint, they are different types of medication.
Vaccines teach immune systems how to recognize and attack diseases and pathogens. These sorts of medications and treatments directly poison the parasites. They're similar in effect in that the pets are defended against unwanted aggressors, but differ in the mechanism.
@FlyingSquid there are a few I believe. I trust my vet as well. She has always been amazing with all of my dogs and they’ve all had long, healthy, happy lives.
She mentioned ProHeart 12 for heartworm prevention. Doing research I came across the other vaccines for fleas and ticks. And a LOT of people pushing ideas on how bad they are for dogs long term. She was able to satisfy all my questions and I trust her completely, just was curious about community thoughts on it!
Fair enough. I have honestly heard nothing about them, but considering we have to buy expensive soft food and crush the Trifexis into it to get them to eat it each month, that sounds like a pretty good alternative.
@FlyingSquid You might ask your vet and see if it’s a good fit for you! Like you my dogs socialize with each other, other family members dogs - never random dogs and I’ve never really had flea or tick issues, certainly never worms. So it’s hard to speak to any efficacy but from a preventative standpoint it seemed right for us, I had a hard time with my dogs and the oral treatments as well.
I was already planning on asking her next time I brought one of them in. Thanks!
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Flea, ticks and heart worm preventative measures are not vaccines since they don't protect against a virus since fleas, tickets and heart worms are considered parasites. They use a different biological method to control than vaccines.
However you really need to get them and most importantly keep them up to date. Most need to be given monthly for chewables and injectables need to be redone every 6-months or 12-months. You're vet will help determine what is needed
@dumples right, I should have used the word injections. My bad. I’m referring to the 12 month injection.
Easy mistake but people might be confused
Minor quibble, vaccine protect against more than just viruses. Tetanus, for example, is a bacterial infection and there is a vaccine.
53% of dog owners need a better education then.
I honestly couldn't care less what these clinical morons do to themselves, or their families. But, when you start fucking with animals...
Who thinks this? I know many many dog and cat owners, not one thinks this. Oh, are you speaking of "U.S. pet owners"?
Maybe read the article?
Nah
53% expressed "some hesitancy." That does not mean they are anti vaccine. My vet said under almost no circumstances should we get the lepto vaccine, because it isn't very effective and has a high reaction rate, but definitely get every other vaccine. That might count as "some hesitancy."
I have heard people talking completely seriously about their concerns over giving their dogs autism from vaccinations.
Some people should be made to apologize to every tree they come across for flagrantly wasting the oxygen they so kindly provide us.
Seriously. What the hell is dog autism? I don't know a dog out there that is able to understand social cues and most of them don't want to look you in the eye.
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