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[–] Cad@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Deceptichum is being a counterproductive dick in the comments, but this picture is not gore or even technically NSFW. The prisoner on the floor is not dead and no nudity is visible. This is an image from the US prison in Abu Ghraib during the Iraq War. The US committed many war crimes there. Some of the other images from Abu Ghraib are fully NSFW. You should still look it up and learn that history.

[–] stray@pawb.social 15 points 5 months ago

If it's the kind of thing that could trigger someone then it's common courtesy to mark it NSFW when posting publicly. It's the same as content warnings on media.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man, seeing the American torturers happy, smiling as they pose with their victims is horrifying. I can understand if they felt it was necessary, but they clearly take joy in torturing people. That's so fucked up. The torturers deserve life in prison

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The torturers are only a symptom of America.

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why TF isn't this marked NSFW?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago

She's at work

[–] Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not, I'm sharing important historical photos to highlight American Crimes Against Humanity.

Now please go bury your head elsewhere, this is not the place for your bullshit.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Please provide the relevant context for the image and tag it as NSFW then. Seems like a pretty common courtesy.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have no desire to censor and hide this, that would defeat the whole purpose of confronting Americans with pre-Trump America.

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck it, I'll bite. What about post-trump?

Would it not be better to focus on the horrors of today?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 5 months ago

These are the horrors of today, they have not ended.

Before, during, or after Trump innocent people across the world are suffering because of American evils.

[–] Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I’m not subscribed to this community, and you haven’t applied any NSFW tags; this is on the home page. I don’t want to scroll past dead bodies at 6am.

I’m not burying my head in anything; I just don’t want to see this shit.

Tag your content appropriately, and watch your tone.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No-one in the photo is dead.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There were in some other photos, which should be appropriately marked now.

[–] Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago
[–] Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was referring to the streak of several photos OP was posting in quick succession to the same community, not that specific one.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Ok thanks, I didn't see the others at all.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And I don't want to have to listen to Americans defend this and talk about how badly they want to go back to it every day.

We don't always get what we want, luckily for you your solution is as easy as blocking one community on your end.

Edit: You ended up getting your wish.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are you hearing americans defending this and saying how bad they want to go back to it on lemmy...?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, all the time I hear Americans go on about how they must defeat Trump and make things good again.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

According to Deceptichum, Deceptichum is saying that before Reagan, America was perfect!

https://quokk.au/c/historymemes@piefed.social/p/365088/ronnie-raygun

What a Nazi! /s

[–] cole@lemdro.id 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

share more context on the photos please or it's easy to dismiss them as AI generated

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 5 months ago

These are extensively well documented historical incidences, but sure I'll add some more information.

[–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago

I recommend blocking this community.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Make sure you vote for your favorite Blackwater mercenary Graham Platner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_Square_massacre

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-dark-truth-about-blackwater/

https://www.ilawjournals.com/blackwater-the-major-crimes-of-the-most-famous-american-pmcs/

A proud 6-times participant of Iraq and afganistan invasions, and industrial military puppet and war criminal to become your next US senate representing the DNC!

More detailed comment about his participation in war crimes:

https://lemmy.world/post/37642684/20066134

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let’s start with some honesty. The links in that post, the Wikipedia page on the Nisour Square massacre , the Brookings article , and the ILawJournals piece , have nothing to do with Graham Platner. They are about the crimes committed by Blackwater contractors in 2007. Dragging Platner’s name into that is misleading and irresponsible.

If you actually check reliable sources, here is what they say. Platner served in Iraq as a United States Marine, not as a private contractor. That is an important distinction. Years after leaving the Marines, he worked a short-term security contract in 2018 with Constellis, the company that absorbed what was left of Blackwater. The contract was for the State Department in Kabul, Afghanistan, not Iraq. The New Yorker notes that he served near Abu Ghraib years earlier but was not involved in any of the abuses that happened there. The GQ profile and The American Prospect both report the same thing: Marine service, later contractor work, and no evidence of wrongdoing.

I understand not liking the military industrial complex. I do not either. I have seen how it chews people up and spits them out while companies make millions. But there is a big difference between criticizing that system and accusing an individual of war crimes he did not commit. That kind of careless attack does not expose corruption. It only spreads misinformation and damages a person’s reputation.

If we want to have serious conversations about private military contractors and America’s foreign policy failures, then let us have them. But let us do it honestly. Graham Platner did not shoot civilians in Baghdad, and pretending he did only weakens whatever moral argument you are trying to make.

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

It's also part of a much larger trend where we tend to blame as many problems on as few individuals as possible. Sure, it simplifies the story in our heads, but it also allows massive corporations who ARE responsible for wrongdoings get away with blaming whoever happens to be sitting at the top seat. And ~~when~~ IF they even get punished at all, it's usually so light that they don't even notice and before long they're the head of another company anyway so its as if it never happened

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In October, various news outlets reported on past Reddit posts by Platner between 2013 and 2021 in which he called himself a "communist", declared that "all" cops are "bastards", and agreed with a post describing White people as "racist and stupid". In a 2013 Reddit discussion about anti-rape underwear, Platner commented that people worried about assault should "take some responsibility for themselves and not get so fucked up they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to". He also referenced political violence in multiple posts; in 2018, he wrote: "Fight until you get tired of fighting with words and then fight with signs, and fists, and guns if need be." Platner also said that "an armed working class is a requirement for economic justice" and urged readers to "Get Armed, Get Organized. The Other Side Sure As Hell Is."

Slightly based ngl (well the rape take is pretty terrible).

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You haven't learned shit from Obama and Joe Biden.

I'm aware of his leftist-narrative lip service, but no; I want to see his anti-imperalism reciepts.

Lets see him donate all the blood money he earned from his 6-time service in the shame invasion of Iraq. Also lets see him blow the whistle on all war crimes he whitnessed and/or participated in with blackwater.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Stop spreading disinformation and actively trying to prevent a positive change in my state. Do you even live here? Why are you so intent on using lies to smear Platner? What is your objective? If it's hoping somebody even better than Graham shows up, you're absolutely delusional. My guess is that you're scared of an actual progressive gaining office and are spreading lies to discredit him so a conservative can win the office.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

In 2020, all four convicted were pardoned by President Donald Trump.

Fucking wat

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

I'd take him over another crypt keeper any day. Establishment Dems are fascists just like Republicans.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Let’s start with some honesty. The links in that post, the Wikipedia page on the Nisour Square massacre , the Brookings article , and the ILawJournals piece , have nothing to do with Graham Platner. They are about the crimes committed by Blackwater contractors in 2007. Dragging Platner’s name into that is misleading and irresponsible.

If you actually check reliable sources, here is what they say. Platner served in Iraq as a United States Marine, not as a private contractor. That is an important distinction. Years after leaving the Marines, he worked a short-term security contract in 2018 with Constellis, the company that absorbed what was left of Blackwater. The contract was for the State Department in Kabul, Afghanistan, not Iraq. The New Yorker notes that he served near Abu Ghraib years earlier but was not involved in any of the abuses that happened there. The GQ profile and The American Prospect both report the same thing: Marine service, later contractor work, and no evidence of wrongdoing.

I understand not liking the military industrial complex. I do not either. I have seen how it chews people up and spits them out while companies make millions. But there is a big difference between criticizing that system and accusing an individual of war crimes he did not commit. That kind of careless attack does not expose corruption. It only spreads misinformation and damages a person’s reputation.

If we want to have serious conversations about private military contractors and America’s foreign policy failures, then let us have them. But let us do it honestly. Graham Platner did not shoot civilians in Baghdad, and pretending he did only weakens whatever moral argument you are trying to make.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This person is either unwilling or incapable of engaging with reality on a good faith basis.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That dude is unhinged as fuck. They don't seem to know the difference between being a Marine for 8 years and being in Blackwater. I leaned a long time ago that arguing with a nut is they same as wrestling a pig. You both get covered in shit but only the pig loves it.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

So you'd rather a corporate bought legislature than a real person that has shown growth and change?

You sound like a far right bot

[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

How did this post turn into a dumb discussion about NSFW and Graham Platner, it's beyond me, I was old enough to remember, and for the youngsters who may think it's AI, this is not even the half of it, this was on TV news and in all the major newspapers around the world

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

When it's US atrocities

  • we should focus on present
  • let bygones be bygones
  • it was normal during that time period
  • it's progressive compared to present day
  • it's russian/china propaganda
  • they want to divide us
  • russia made us do it
  • bad people only exist in USA?
  • I wasn't involved in that period,why should it matter to me?
  • okay it was bad but look at all the good it has done for our country
  • because of us, you're in the most peaceful part of history
  • thank you for your service
  • what you're going to do about it?
  • got mine, fuck you

But when talking about its enemies

  • bring up the same atrocities from decades and decades ago, over and over again to brigade the arguments.

This is basic US conditioning.

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