Anakin has a clear motive, and a logical progression from naive to evil.
Danny just decides to lose her shit one day.
The ending of GoT will never stop being a sore spot for me. Some of the worst writing and abandonment (sabotage?) of character development I've ever witnessed.
You've got it all wrong! It was actually an incredibly genius move, as the writers knew that after 7 seasons of twists, turns and surprises, the audience wouldn't really be phased by any characters death anymore. We'd become so accustomed to sudden character deaths that watching GoT became the literal incarnation of "expect the unexpected" and you can't shock people who are just waiting for it to happen. So what did the showrunners do? They did the only thing nobody expected, assassinated the only target they knew would still get a reaction out of people after all this time - they killed off the show itself.
Hahaha that's brilliant
Yeah but they had that big movie deal to get working on, had to put a bow on it.
I feel so sorry for the actors and other people who worked on the show, besides D and D of course. Imagine being part of the biggest TV thing ever and having incredible success, only for it all to fall apart towards the end, completely removing the thing from public consciousness.
Danerys going crazy should have been set up YEARS in advance. She spends the first 7 seasons doing everything she can to avoid needless suffering and talking about how she's going to "break the wheel."
Then, over the course of only 3-4 episodes in Season 8, D & D flip her switch from "good" to "evil" like the Krusty the Clown doll and she slaughters an entire city. This is not "character growth." This contradicts everything we've been shown about her character.
If they were extremely accomplished at one thing, it was throwing away almost a decade worth of character and story development for basically every surviving character in the show, which is honestly impressive
Might not be character growth... could be tumor in the brain growth.
The probable crazy switch for Dany in the books is fAegon. She's all busy in Mereen, meanwhile fAegon is out there taking Westeros from Cersei and fixing stuff.
When she finally gets her shit together and goes to Westeros along with the Iron Fleet and Mr. Cthullu, the liberator card doesn't work because no one needs to be liberated so she goes nuts. All the pride, violence and idolatry in her arc makes sense.
In the show she was just replacing Cersei. No one likes Cersei, she'd still be a liberator. We'd need Jon unseating Cersei while trying to unite Westeros before Dany arrived for it to make sense. All we got as a trigger was a scene where she was sad because the members of the patriarchal society she just arrived in with three giant fire lizards don't want to drink with her.
Steven Crowder is a piece of shit human.
(couldn't find the template i had but i think this can do) lets spread Calvin!
Clone Wars did a great job portraying Anakin's gradual slide. There was nuance and plenty of exposure of the good parts of his character. His friendship with Obi-Wan was in evidence. His relationship with Padme was believable.
The fact that post-pubescent prequel-Anakin was ever trusted by anyone is at best evidence of how the dark side clouds perception.
In the prequels, from EPII he continuously felt like someone who should clearly be a Sith being shoehorned into being a Jedi. His friendship with Obi-Wan existed in name only, and his "romance" with Padme was in fact not a better romance than Twilight. (And that's saying something.)
OG fans waited decades to see Vader's backstory, and what we got was about the least rewarding most hamfisted and uninteresting portrayal of that backstory that could have been achieved. Decades of fan appetite regarding that backstory, possibly the only time such a thing has been maintained in the history of cinema, or likely will be again, and Lucas gave us Jar-Jar, cringe dialog, limp acting, and endless CGI.
D&D royally fucked up with GoT, but using the prequels to shine a light on that reads like something from The Onion.
The whole point of it is that whatever you described is still somehow better than that disappointing bullshit of a last season
I just realized I may have entirely missed the point of your explanation. Sorry. I'll leave my other comment for posterity.
The whole point of it is that whatever you described...
It's only a matter of degree though, at best. The three movies OP refers to were absolute shit in their own way. OP could have done a like to like comparison with Clone Wars and GoT and had a meme that made much more sense.
Meanwhile, I think there's a credible argument that the prequels (you do know what I'm describing, right?) are not in the slightest better than the last season of GoT (if we ignore their contribution to the meme-o-sphere), making OP fairly weak, and in an almost Onion-like way.
haven’t seen this douche in a while. imho people should cover his stupid face with the face of whoever the meme is referencing 🤷♂️
What did he do? I've never seen him outside of this meme.
He's openly homophobic/transphobic. He refuses to debate his peers but sees nothing wrong with making his positions look artificially superior by choosing unprepared college students as his opponents, making up statistics to support his claims knowing that said opponents won't have the data to disprove it off the top of their head, and simply editing out the times that his opponent does manage to correctly oppose his argument (allegedly).
Recently even his political constituents hate him after he whined at Daily Wire for, what he calls, treating him unfairly with a $50 million dollar contract. And to completely top off the shit-sandwich, there's video evidence of him abusing his wife and she claims that he made physical threats.
Even after all that I'm sure I'm missing something lol
Are we including the Clone Wars? Because for me, that filled in a lot of gaps and made the movies more enjoyable.
I will never not read D and D as Dungeons and Dragons, so this was highly confusing to me at first 😂
I love how Game Of Thrones ended like 3 years ago and the internet is still processing our collective trauma from how objectively terrible season 8 was.
Over 4 years ago now.
Damn, that one went fast!
The fuck does Dungeons and Dragons have to do with Star Wars?
David Benioff and DB Weiss are the two dumbos that ruined game of thrones. I don't like that they're abbreviated to be confused with the ttrpg Dungeons and Dragons, but it's what the internet decided.
David and Dan.
Both were a bit crap in my opinion. Ok, Dany's was Taco Bell volcano diarrhea level.
Exactly.
Agree, ending of GOT made of lot of people stop being long time fans.
Rushed and not that well tought out.
I just tell people that GoT is the best 4 season TV show in history.
I do appreciate season 5 for the sand snakes jail scene at least.
Any love for season 6? Those last two episodes were BOSS
same as star wars being the best 6+2 movies ever :p
just 6
meant episodes I-VI + solo and rogue one
It's like a hurdles race for toddlers. Its literally just a bar on the ground to hop over, and they still sometimes fail.
I don’t know. They both flipped on a dime into kid murdering.
I mean... I'm not saying that either one of them is good.
The prequels are hot garbage start to finish. But at least the ending makes narrative sense, if you squint and look at it sideways.
There's just no way to look at the last season and make it make sense.
Anakin has a clear motive, and a logical progression from naive to evil.
...did he, though?
Anakin did not like sand, so therefore he had to kill all the younglings to win Padme's love. It's a very clear yet compelling character arc.
And you have to remember that he liked to spin as "it was a cool trick".
I'd say so
plucked from poverty and slavery, despite his mother remaining helpless, by a Jedi that was a part of an order that ultimately saw him as an unscrupulous means to an end of maintaining their power
he felt as though he could make a bigger difference than he was allowed if stated order relinquished their attempt at controlling him
this feeling was vindicated by his mother's torture and subsequent death
had his previously instilled beliefs challenged by two men he respected
incredibly strong motivation to go against the Jedi's wishes to save the one person he valued more than life itself
You mean it's better than this legendarily shit thing? You don't say?
When episodes 1-3 came out they were widely regarded as awful. Your kids are going to think the end of Game of Thrones was good.
RotS was the saving grace for the prequels. Otherwise theyre just lore notes that were adapted into clunky awkward movies.
No one's gonna try to change your mind on this, especially not GOT fans.
Star Wars is a simplistic naive story where every single character is either good or evil. There's no character complexity whatsoever. The main reason the original trilogy was so successful is because they were very well made movies made in a time when well made movies hadn't even been done yet. Star Wars raised the bar of how good a movie should look and feel. But the story is trash.