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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 238 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you, too, can die at the hands of AI and become forever enshrined as algorithmic data to help improve Tesla's subscription services sales to the very wealthy and hostile

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 134 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Since it seems to be unsafe at any speed, why not.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because now it can hurt others going even faster

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The less time you're at the cars mercy...

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[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

When a self driving car breaks the law, the CEO should get the demerit points on their own licence, and if they lose their licence, the cars can't drive anymore.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would be funny but better yet, the entire line of cars gets the feature deleted from them and customers are reimbursed the entire value of the car plus interest in exchange for having risked their lives testing an unstable and dangerous vehicle.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

bail out the idiots that bought cybertrucks?

eehhhh.....

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Just because Elon is above the law doesn’t mean you are, even if you’re in a Tesla. Good luck.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Even if you’re just minding your business when a sleeping pilled-out middle manager from Subway corporate plows into your 98 Corolla in their Tesla at 100 mph leaving your family without a father and source of income because a billionaire nazi who's constantly off his nut on ketamine decided rules are stupid and don’t apply to him and the entire societal structure designed to prevent this from happening has been hollowed out by incompetent bigots who absolutely rate high on the sociopath scale because nazi media has ensnared 51% of the population and now you dead.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with you but may I offer you a comma in these trying times?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

They're optional

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago

which comes with higher speeds and more frequent lane changes

Go kiss a concrete pillar, ya duds

[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why do we continue to allow this company to exist and break the law?

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Adaptive cruise control is good enough for most people and has been a proven technology for 20+ years. FSD is just downright dangerous.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I like my car’s version that’s just adaptive cruise control combined with using lidar maps of major roads to do lane-centering. I can go on a road trip and not touch the gas, break, or steering wheel for hours, but I have to drive it myself through residential neighborhoods.

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

"that breaks speed limits" can be ok.

I have seen a number of US interstates posted at 55mph, when traffic moves at 70-80mph. Being stuck at 55mph on those interstates is dangerous.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that this FSD mode comes with “more frequent lane changes” means it isn’t just keeping up with traffic. It’s designed to go faster than traffic. Stop making herr Elon’s points for him.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 21 points 2 weeks ago (36 children)

I do aknowledge that's always going to be the problem when we have the human + AI driver combinations.

Safest hypothetical is 100% AIs that always follow the same rules... next safest is humans that break the rules, but in a context aware situation (IE everyone going 70 in a 55, is safer than 1 car going 55 and all other cars going 70).

Real danger though is if the AI doesn't make good judgement calls when doing so. IE rather than deciding based on how fast other cars are going, it's primary determination is whether the user says they are in a hurry, leading it to sometimes be the one car going 55, but if the person is in a hurry it may be the only car going 70 on a road everyone else is going 55.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I hear this argument a lot and I’m not disagreeing per se. But we should be clear. It can be dangerous for 1 out of 10 cars to be driving 55 instead of 75. But it would be safer by far if all 10 cars drove 55.

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[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when Elon said how self driving would make roads safer?

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So there’s finally a “New Jersey” mode.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

And all the innocent people that get splattered in the process will just be chimps shot into space

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn't pay for the car, so why do they get a say right?

Sarcasm.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Simple. They buy a don't run me over subscription. The free market triumphs once again ^/s^

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago

states just need to ban teslas from public road

[–] greasewizard@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

I can't wait to get paralyzed by a cybertruck veering in to me at the highway

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Need jammers to confuse and break Teslas. They're weapons designed to break laws and protect occupants at the expense of bystanders. Can't be mad if a bystander redirects your Tesla into a ditch.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

protect occupants

It doesn't even do that. You crash a tesla and start a fire, it will glady lock you in the car.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Hurry mode" lol. I'm pretty sure every driving instruction manual ever made says something like "don't drive like you're in a hurry."

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

This is the guy who decided traffic rules are dumb.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I drive a Tesla. I live in Connecticut, speed limits are set very low and are ignored by just about everybody Including police, as long as you're not driving recklessly.

The problem with the latest FSD versions is they take precise speed control out of the driver's hands. In previous versions, you could manually set a maximum speed. Now you cannot, you only pick one of these driving profiles.

So for example if I'm driving on a 55 mph highway, and all the other cars are doing 75 mph, I have to pick the 'Hurry' profile which also hangs out in the left lane and makes a lot of lane changes and faster acceleration/braking. I would much rather drive standard style but with higher speed, but that isn't an option.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

Why use FSD though if you would still need to pay attention and be ready to take over the car? I understand cruise control to a degree but the other stuff I dont see how its helpful to rely on a computer that can malfunction at any moment.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

I got a tesla and I don't fucking trust that shit to not slam me in to a barrier

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Spyware on wheels won't let me break the law

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[–] mriormro@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

I drive a tesla

Self own, tbh.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Intentionally breaking laws sounds like something that should be prosecuted.

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[–] Teal@piefed.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

With the exception of not being low cost items, Tesla blended with a little SpaceX could become Spacers Choice from The Outer Worlds.

"At Spacer's Choice, we cut corners so you don't have to”.

"It's not the best choice, it's Spacer's Choice”.

“Taste the freedom”.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Dude can we get so much as a copyright violation from Warner Bros on this shit?

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