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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't fuck it up, linux people.

Remember, if you are tempted to say "rtfm", it's probably because you're a cunt.

Make everything easy to understand, in as many places as possible.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been years since I've seen that written anywhere

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I only see it used as irony

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

Or baseless complaints like above

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

RTFM comments are probably mostly about using the terminal, which is a good thing, since man pages explain most of the things pretty good.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The only issue with man pages is that it often doesn't cover common use cases. I know info pages often have that kind of information, but it's hit or miss it they exist.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Try tldr pages, they're in most repositories nowadays

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hadn't heard of those before. I'll give them a looksie

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Would be nice if more man pages were like the OpenBSD ones, since they actually do that pretty consistently, in my experience. Probably what I would go with if I needed to install something on a computer I would be locked up with somehow, without internet access.

Unfortunately, as I recall, there are occasional differences in how their version of commands work, versus the same command in Linux. For one example, look at the difference in the man pages for ifconfig between Arch Linux and OpenBSD.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Indeed, only cases I see RTFM are stuff such as: how do I use the cut command to get columns 3 and 5 in a semicolon divided document? And even then there's generally someone explaining.

Now, regarding the quality of man pages... In maby cases it feels they were written in the 80s by someone who had to ship them as soon as possible and nobody ever improved them. Some commands are very well explained with examples and such, some have the options clearly explained, many just have the list of options without clarifying what the option is for.

[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is it happening? Can we say it now???

[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't! You're gonna jinx it!

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

ITS THE YEAR OF THE PLAN 9 DESKTOP!

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s FINALLY the year of the templeOS desktop!

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Now we can all play "unfun games" :D

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

FROM OUTER SPACE!!!

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Plan 9 was an experimental lightweight unix like operating system made at bell labs. I highly suggest looking it up, its super cool and wacky

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The End is nigh!

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes halflife 3 is coming!

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I know how to do a lot of Linux maintenance, but with Mint I very rarely have to. And it seems to be just getting more stable with each release.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I feel like we're getting astroturfed with Zorin bullshit. Never hear about that distro more than once a year, and now it's in a dozen articles this week

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago

Unsurprisingly, it's one of those distros with a "Pro" subscription tier

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think im about the closest thing to a fanboi for the distro and even im like. whats with all these articles about their new version being posted in the last week or so.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

They have doubled their users, they're now in the double digits. It's cause for celebration.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Keep an eye on custom PC build sites, for when they start dropping linux in as a OS choice, it will be spelling the end of Windows as a home based OS system.

[–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I may get some heat here but installing LM Studio, (think a personally hosted chat gpt), has helped me far more than any online forum due to the sheer amount of outdated linux information. I highly suggest hosting a model and using it for most of your questions.

I know this doesn't help other people with similar issues, but I likely would have stopped using linux without it.

[–] TechLich@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I do think ai tools can be really good for this! They often do a good job of explaining why to do things and allowing for follow-up questions, rather than just what to do, and what the manual says.

The one thing to be careful of is that they also sometimes give those outdated or unnecessary answers, just like the web does. It's worth asking the same thing a few times and maybe doing a web search for their suggestions to double check (it can still be better than just trying to search through forums, stack overflow and archwiki yourself without knowing exactly what to search for and which things apply to you).

Sometimes beginners in Linux fall into rabbit holes following ai instructions or online tutorials that suggest huge complex things like manually compiling and repackaging broken dependencies or replacing your whole desktop environment to avoid a bug when there's a much simpler solution.

It's those kinds of pifalls that lead to the extreme reactions you sometimes see from people who claim Linux is too complicated or broken or unreliabile or not ready. People run into a small issue and google search or ai tells them how to use a gun and they shoot themselves in the foot with it.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

Many distros have pretty comprehensive and up to date wikis (Arch and Debian for example). LLMs have a lot of out of date info as well, even the big proprietary ones. I can see how they might help a newcomer though, with how bad search engines are now (ironically, a lot of the problems are from AI generated articles SEO'd to hell).

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I did download Ubuntu for my main computer, made a partition and installed it for dual boot. Wasn't able to get my S/PDIF audio working so I'm still on Win10 right now until I finish some things, then I'll try to fix my audio issue again. Or maybe a different distro will work better.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Give Bazzite a try it’s been good for me

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I was gonna try that next. Does it have better audio settings/support than Ubuntu? I noticed Ubuntu doesn't even allow me to choose sample rate or bit depth of my audio.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, Ubuntu used to be a decent desktop distro, but they've made some… choices. You can do better. Mint gets recommended a lot, but that also feels dated. It depends on what your use case is. GNOME vs KDE is a lot more important, find the one that you like better because that's how you'll be interacting with it all day. KDE is more like Windows, GNOME has a more Mac feel.

If you don't want to tinker with it, you just want it to work and want to use your apps as is, go with an immutable distro (e.g., Bazzite like OP suggested). You can't easily mess up the important bits that keep it running and as long as you reboot it from time to time you'll always have the latest updates. IMO, unless you actively want to mess with the underpinnings of your system, an immutable is the best way to go.

Bazzite is gaming focused, but if you're not a gamer, there are others (e.g., Kinoite). But in my experience, they just work leaving you to do what you actually want to do, not fight with it to make it work.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Note that Bazzite-DX (Bazzite plus some tweaks targeted towards programmers) and Bluefin (basically Bazzite minus some gaming specific tweaks) exist and are managed by the main Bazzite dev project.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I also agree that Bazzite is a great suggestion for a relative newbie mostly looking for something that just works, but would also suggest that at this point, PopOS! is basically what Ubuntu should be / have become.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

tldr yes

Long story: by Ubuntu you mean Ubuntu with the Gnome desktop: yes. KDE Plasma a different desktop environment has more settings. Bazzite uses kde plasma with the default installation.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thanks, maybe I'll try switching my current Ubuntu to KDE

Edit: I was able to get my audio working with KDE's GUI, I just had to choose "Pro Audio" and then "Pro 1", even switching back to GNOME my audio still works so I'll see which one I like better. I still wish there was an easy way to set my sample rate and bit depth but this is good for now. Thanks.

[–] Clearwater@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

When you installed KDE, it must have also installed pavucontrol. Now that you have that app, you can access those settings on GNOME by searching for that name.

This also applies for other distros. Just install that package and you'll have that app.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago

I’m glad it worked out!

Backstory:

Nowadays audio is all handled by pipewire (no matter which distro/desktop) but the gui to edit the configuration varies, this is how a fix in kde could still work in gnome.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Audio on Linux, like all things, is a deep deep rabbit hole. Whatever you want to do, you can. Whether it'll be easy, or accessible through a GUI, or if you'll have to write your own scripts, who knows. Everything is on the table.

The best way to get answers is to ask directly in the community for your chosen distro. A lot of people just lazily post in generic linux/tech communities, like /r/linux on reddit, and get lazy replies from people who don't know, but feel compelled to post anyway. Don't do that.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Audio is a smooth sail for me these days with multiple Linux distros thanks to pipewire. Tried on multiple desktop PCs with Intel, NVidia and AMD hardware from older to newer and never had audio issues. Be it OpenSUSE, Bazzite, EndeavourOS, Arch, Mint or Fedora. All have Pipewire as the default sound system, IIRC. The integration under modern KDE Plasma is fantastic. I recently discovered Helvum which makes audio routing via a patchbay GUI really easy. Don't know if Pipewire is suited for music production though or if you still need Jack for that because of latency issues.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thanks. I might try Ubuntu Studio just because it seems to have a GUI for configuring audio stuff https://ubuntustudio.org/audio-configuration/

I also saw talk about Pop, Mint, Catchy

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago

I would also throw CachyOS into consideration, if you're not hard set on an immutable distro.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

You can configure Linux to auto-select correct sample rate based on source file. I'm pretty sure PipeWire (Linux's audio system) will always use 24bit bit depth if your hardware supports, there's no point switching it. Not sure if there are graphical setting apps for setting up dynamic sample rate, but here's a guide how to set it up with config file (don't worry about it being Arch Wiki article): https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire#Changing_the_allowed_sample_rate(s)

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe i should start doing it.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The year of Windows 10 LTSC IOT on my spare boot drive has arrived.

That's the only change for me really

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