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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is getting trolled heavily, I'm shutting it down.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 127 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

We're fucked because we spent the last 70 years making corporations stronger than nations. So of course lies are the truth, and bad is good, and down is up. Thats what corporations do; gaslight, extract, destroy.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 39 points 2 weeks ago

Amen. Control the corporations if you want to fix the world.

The rich will burn it all if they aren't regulated.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 2 weeks ago

and also money coming from russia and aipac and thier wealthy backers too.

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 94 points 2 weeks ago (42 children)

Democrats do deserve to be blamed for losing elections. If they ran better campaigns, if they read the room and actually responded to voters' concerns, maybe the GOP wouldn't have total control of all three branches right now.

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[–] pepsi_not_coke@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It literally says 'they', as in the Republicans, and is blaming the Republicans for insider trading, stealing congressional seats, bankrupting farmers, and bombing fishing boats.

It's also blaming the Democrats for not doing much.

You can blame the Republicans for being shit and the Democrats for not doing enough. Two different groups can be responsible for two separate things.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And the conclusion is that you need a system that allows multiple parties to get some competition going instead of winner takes all.

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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably because we elected the Dems to do something and they put their top man, Merrick Garland, on it and he did jack shit for two years. Biden also knew the court was fucked and refused to do anything about that. Also he did nothing to differentiate himself from the fasc and actively did a genocide and border fascism. Then he refused to give up power and handed his campaign over to a person who refused to distance herself from him.

So, yes, the useless neoliberals have doomed us to climate catastrophe and have enabled fascism by refusing to give up on their failed ideology. This is a global phenomenon that could have been prevented by helping normal people with their problems instead of tinkering around the edges.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Merrick Garland is a member of the heritage foundation and giving him the AG was putting a conservative in charge of prosecuting conversatives. The most important part of Biden's presidency was prosecuting Trump and he chose a fucking Republican for the job.

[–] jonne 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Democrats always do this. They're always 'looking forward, not back', and that meant that Nixon, Reagan, Bush Jr and Trump all got away with various crimes, and so did the minions that worked for all of them (like Roger Stone).

Democrats were falling under themselves saying 'in this country we don't prosecute our political opponents', followed through with that promise, and now Trump is prosecuting them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 2 weeks ago

they got too sensitive, that they are afraid offending republicans voters, who may or may not vote for them. DEMS are never going to get any R voters, in general. they dont keep the younger based engaged enough, like AOC, BERNIE AND MADHAMI WOULD.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's not like they didn't know what was coming - Biden preemptively pardoned his son in anticipation of this.

But fuck the rest of us.

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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tim, tell’em how much violence the Black Panther party had to commit to gain actually civil rights. How many deaths had to be fought for.

There’s work to be done. Politician are all sycophants. Let's go out an win our rights again.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

They are fucking useless, to be fair.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The fact that people are surprised is a huge part of the problem. When people say over and over what they will do, and then do it, and then say that they will do it again... at some point it might behoove others to actually listen?

Some, like Jon Stewart, warned people for literally decades that allowing the fourth estate (news media as the external check that balances everything) to be bought out would seal the end. The only surprise there was the speed with which it all happened, and given the external events that helped bring it about, even that should not have been so surprising.

Because it's happened before, see e.g. Brexit, and it's happening again now in most places around the world, even supposed strongholds like Canada and Germany. Although almost universally nearly everything I see across the Threadiverse is the notion that everywhere else is immune - it's like each commentor individually thinks that "yes it's happening everywhere else, but not to ME, where I live". Almost nobody wants to take responsibility to listen, learn, and own up to personal biases that could help to move forward intelligently.

Okay then. Fuck it, we ball I guess.

[–] jonne 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The media has been captured for decades. It's literally the thesis of 'Manufacturing Consent'.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To be clear though, I meant the for-profit media, which affects ~~all~~ both sides. Like everyone on MSNBC is constantly acting "shocked" and are "surprised" at every single new event that happens.

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News is entertainment, not factual conveyance of information. And what information that does manage to make it through is heavily biased, which only makes it all the easier to disprove it.

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e.g. the right talks about how cities are literally on fire and shops don't even exist anymore as all the windows are boarded up. The left counters with how every single person in a city is so "safe" and crime basically never happens, as the stats show (they say). We all here know that both of those are bold-faced lies, but put yourself in the mind of a young person from a rural or suburban area that has barely or even never spent any time in a city environment: all it would take is one single trip to a city where their car window gets shattered (even while they are still in it?) and/or they get shot at or mugged and bam, instantly they no longer believe the leftist media bias, even if they also still aren't ready to accept the full right-wing source either. But this being a 2-party system, NOT voting for the Democrats translates into allowing the Republicans to win.

But MSNBC will still act shocked, and Democrats will still write strongly written letters. It is performative acts all the way down (note I am not saying all the way through, but those in power at all levels i.e. of both media and actual governance).

Edit: also that >30 year old documentary would predate the actual and literal buyout of most media sources, which had heavily bet on the model of providing information free while served with ads, by not merely allies of but the literal individuals who are the elite. e.g. Musk purchasing Twitter, converting it into X, Bezos purchasing the Washington Post, and so on. I suppose they still do manufacture consent though:-D - but they now do it in a much more raw and naked form than 30+ years in the past, e.g. Musk not only censors posts on X but also posts directly there himself as well.

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[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a line from the most recent album from Billy Talent saying they are tired of preaching to the choir. And I think that speaks to a lot of people who have seen the writing on the wall and spoken out. But not enough people take it to heart.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's hard to take it to heart when one person speaks the truth and two are paid to tell a lie. Your impression is forever going to be that the lie has more support than the truth.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure felt like the Republicans were able to block shit pretty successfully when they were a way smaller minority

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Democrats when they are the majority: "OMG, the Republicans are preventing us from giving you any of the things that you want. I guess we gotta go bomb a bunch of brown people, and spend a bunch of monies on our rich friends."

Democrats when they are the minority: "What do you want us to do? We don't have any power. I guess we gotta vote for the Republican policies."

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[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats are the reason we're in this mess though. All they had to do was convince Biden to stick with his 1 term plan and have normal primaries.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not to mention Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the Democrats who limply allowed SCOTUS to be stacked with unqualified Conservative justices.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope both parties end up as museum exhibits, where people can learn why First Past the Post was replaced with something better.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

the GOP already died (to a personality cult around trump), now we just need voters to realize the establishment Dem's can die just as easily...i think Mamdani taking NYC will be wakeup call to progressives across the country, about just how weak their grasp is now

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

After endless trolley dilemma arguments, it is now that we are allowed to analyze the system that lashes people to tracks?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 2 weeks ago

even if they dint control all 3 branches, thier propagana machine works so well, they had total control over media for decades. that includes all the msms besides fox, notice how none of them show any left leaning news or content, its all whitewashes or marginalize. when troops were sitll dying in afghanistan, almost all the msms, were still honoring them.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

ITT: people blaming the democrats anyway. The brainwash is incredible.

[–] javasux@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Have you considered that perhaps the meme is wrong?

Just because the Uvalde school shooter is the one committing child murders, that doesn't mean I'm not gonna blame the police for standing outside the school doing nothing the whole time

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Have you considered that perhaps the meme is wrong?

Of course they haven't.

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 weeks ago

ITT: People pretend that Democrats give a shit about democracy, or what their voters want.

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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

No, the reason is because you all keep looking to the dems as the "good guys" in all in this, instead of what they are. Co-conspirators. Never EVER forget that in 2016, Bernie would have beaten Trump with ease. Even Republicans were saying they would vote for Bernie. The world would never know what a Trump presidency looks like, if not for the Dems and the DNC screwing him over.

And they havent stopped. They are still screwing people over who could bring about change. Like AOC. They fucked her out of a committee seat less than 12 months ago. Instead the shoehorned in some 75 year old man with cancer because he was part of the swamp. Thats right, instead of a 35 year old woman in her prime, they chose a 75 year old man dying of cancer. And he did fucking die. He died 4 months later, and they STILL wont allow her to take the seat because she wont bend the knee to the corrupt party leader or their self interested donors.

If you all want anything to change, start a grass roots movement right fucking now around AOC and get her the nom for 2028. If youre all just going to sit back, and cross your fingers that cunts like Nancy fucking Pelosi are going to save you... well, youre fucked. And not in the good way. Stop fucking whining, and get out there and make the future you want to happen!

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