I dont love any nation because thats a fucking weird thing to do
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
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If nation means the government, the social order, the economic structure, even the cultural trappings... yes.
If nation means home... no.
Your home requires your care - it needs you, as much as you need it. It will not improve if you do not care for it.
I disagree. Feeling a strong emotion for a nation is a perfectly reasonable and human thing to do. Not that I'm trying to change your mind... just saying I don't feel that way. :)
Yeah i know im the odd one out. It's nothing new.
Im an anarchist in the Bible Belt so... im good without any patriotism thanks.
I'm an anarchist who's only lived in VERY blue places (including angry blue places, like Oakland). I imagine if I'd had a lot of exposure to that kind of environment, I'd have some pretty different feelings about the definition of patriotism too.
Thats fair. I've been watching Republicans froth at the mouth since 9/11 while they keep getting poorer and dying of addiction. It leaves a taste.
youre an "anarchist" who "loves america"
buddy i think you should do some reading about your own country. maybe some reading about the ideology you supposedly hold. i believe these things are in total conflict with one another.
Yes, obviously my point of view is just simplified like that and isn't nuanced at all and jumping straight into trying to start leftest infighting is a great use of both our emotional energy. :)
The America most people grew up in was shit too. People are angry now only because it's turned its tyranny inwards on its own privileged people who have until this point not been severely impacted by its actions. The america my mom was born into didn't even let black people vote.
But you have to be careful, because they will happily edit all that down to just,
I hate America… you’re right!
And use that to justify to their base why you deserve whatever they do to you.
Yeah, fuck 'em, they're gonna do that no matter what. The trick is to be loud and proud enough that people hear our message directly, and can compare it to the gutless liars' version.
I love America. I joined the army to serve. ... Well, if I'm being honest I joined for the GI Bill and vocational training, but I wouldn't have if I didn't believe in and love my country.
But sometimes love means having to stage an intervention when the object of your love is on a self-destructive path. And fuck, are we ever. Self destructive because we are embracing hate of everything that made this country great to begin with.
I love what this country has achieved, but now it's run by entitled pricks who never had to bear the cost of that greatness. And so, painfully and wasteful, we will have to shoulder the burden of becoming great again. Really great, not the MAGA/Temu version.
But I love America enough to be part of that process.