Ahh yes, agreeing to respect international law: the lowest bar of effort. How sad is it that this feels like something we must celebrate?
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
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It's even sadder - I don't believe him
the lowest bar of effort.
This feels a bit disingenuous.
We're in the middle of trade negotiations that affect a huge swathe of jobs etc with an aggressively pro Israel leader. Considering donald's capriciousness and willingness to punish allies for ideological disagreement, this actually feels like a bit of a ballsy statement.
If I were on the US relations file, I'd be praying no one related this to trump etc.
There is no appeasing a tyrant, only resistance.
This is a really easy opinion when it costs you nothing.
He isn't respecting internstional law since he didn't implement an both side arms embargo , no sanctions on the state of israel and deny palestinian rights to self defence
What international laws are you thinking of?
the Geneva and genocide conventions
Geneva applies to Israel's conduct.
The genocide convention underlies the icj and UN approaches etc, all of which Canada is following. (Yes, the UN is flawed but that's the unfortunate reality of international law.)
Canada is following the geneva convention obligations?
Are you sure you mean the Geneva convention?
That's about how countries conduct war and outlines the rights of civilians, soldiers etc.
I'm not sure how you get to Canada violating that?
Go educate yourself . The convention also oblige countries to not be complicit with countries who do not respect it and abuse human rights. Canada is still selling and buying military equipment's from/to Israel and did not impose a single sanction of the state of Israel
The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances
https://lieber.westpoint.edu/common-article-1-1949-geneva-conventions/
Article 1 of the Geneva Conventions is generally interpreted as conferring a responsibility on third party states not involved in an armed conflict to not encourage a party to an armed conflict to violate international humanitarian law, nor to take action that would assist in such violations, and to take appropriate steps to cause such violations to cease.
Also there hundred of canadians serving in the idf despite canadian law prohibiting serving a foreign state army especially one with serious human right abuses
Canada, like many others has stopped selling arms.
The Geneva conventions do not obligate countries to march in to prevent abuses, nor have serious legal experts said that normal trade with Israel is illegal.
Canada, like many others has stopped selling arms. Canada like many other countries lied about it. There is a reason why Israel is not in the official list https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_relations-relations_internationales/sanctions/types.aspx?lang=eng#a1
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/arms-ammunition-shipments-israel-canada-1.7596091
I would like you to address the issue of Canadian serving under the IDF when Canadian law is prohibiting it. Why Carney or any other prime is not applying it's own?
It is really frustrating for me to see people still defending the government blindly like that
Canada like many other countries lied about it.
It's much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.
Canadian serving under the IDF
Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.
Yes, I'd like the government to do more.
But, that is different from the government not following international law.
It's much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.
Nice excuses like usual . I don't care how complicated it is. Israel is committing serious human right abuses almost every day against Palestinians similar to North Korea. I don't want such a terrible trade partner for Canada
Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.
Even if it was one. Canada is not respecting it's own laws yet you still makes dumb excuses about it .
But, that is different from the government not following international law.
Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.
If Canada don't want to care about it maybe it should simply drop sanctions on all the countries they have sanctions on that is not a direct and imminent threat to Canadian security itself
Yes, I'd like the government to do more. With all the excuses you spew I don't think I can believe you on that
Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.
We seem to be talking about different things. I am pointing out that Canada is meeting its legal obligations. You are angry Canada isn't doing more.
These are fundamentally different conversations.
Providing weapons from a genocidal state is meeting it's legal obligation? Having a law prohibiting Canadian to serve under a foreign state and not applying it is not a breach of it's legal obligation? You are not serious at all
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What is outrageous here is that Canada is arming Israel, while selfrighteously denying it. https://ploughshares.ca/canada-under-contract-to-supply-the-idf-with-artillery-propellant/
This one is unfortunate but you can see why in the fine print:
GD-OTS-Canadaβs Valleyfield plant is the sole source of this type of propellant for the US Army
It's part of a shared distribution from the US to both Israel and Ukraine, one of which we desperately want to help. I cannot imagine a universe in which the US lets Canada demand none of it go to Israel and it all goes to Ukraine.
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Great but can we add Trump to the list?
Trump has a criminal record, this has been fought in the past by previous presidents, anyone with a known criminal record cannot enter Canada legally.
Edit: I had to fact check myself and I may be wrong here, have always been under the impression that any convicted criminal cannot enter our country.
But they will make very rare exceptionsβ¦
Trump already entered Canada with a record for the G7 in K country. You may have missed it cause the "leaders" were well sheltered from actual people and cameras.
In today's day and age, upholding the law presents itself as some remarkable competence.
Even better: saying he will uphold the law if ever a certain criminal goes to the country he governs, presents itself as some remarkable competence.
He can always find an excuse to weasel his way out of his own words if Netanyahu ever does go to Canada.
Well don't say it. Now he won't go.
Hes giving him a heads up.
What if I offer him unlimited chicken wings and 5 cold beers a day?
That would appeal to a man. Like a man's man, a dude who likes blue jeans, has a favorite pair of truly worn out underwear and likes tits in his face. A guy who has a lawnmower he got rid of that he liked more than the one he's got now. I'm not sure that applies to Benjamin Netenyahu. I think that's to mammalian for the likes of him.
Thank you, Mark Carney!
Rule of International Law DOES stand, somewhere, to some degree!
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Is he even planning to go there, tho?
He came two times during the conservatives being in power
We've come a long way in a short period. It wasn't so long ago we were holding the Chinese Huawei exec Meng Wanzhou for our American ex-friends. This hurt our relationship with China big time.
ex-friends.
They might have liked us but we never liked them.
What is more sad is the propaganda we were fed about Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig not being involved with espionage, and they were being detained by China to retaliate Wanzhou detention.
Later we find out the Michael's were involved with spying, LOL
Okay, now back it up
Why does canada still have good trade relation with Israel and lies about stopping selling arms to Israel so the war criminal use it to continue occupation? Carney is a snake
Didn't his government not pass a law that they claimed stopped the sending of weapons to Israel only to turn out it didn't at all do so?
Mind you, I'm not Canadian and my experience with Mr Carney is him being the head of the Bank Of England when I lived in the UK, and I wouldn't believe this guy if he told me the sky is blue.
What did he do in the UK during his time at the Bank of England?
Supported the Austerity measures of Tory government who put him there, said a lot of bullshit about the British Economy (as expected from a head of the BoE, mind you)
That said, he wasn't lying when he made the blindingly obvious prediction that Brexit would cripple the Economy.
He said Brexit would cripple the economy then after Brexit the economy wasnβt doing well and he tried saying it wasnβt his fault.
Time stamp is 27:00 though not a lot is said. Mishal asks if, like Justin Trudeau, he would honor ICC arrest warrants and he says yes.
He says in an attempt to save face.
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