this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


Community rules

Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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[–] henfredemars 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I haven’t heard of this instance until now, and I hope to never see users or posts from it on instances I frequent.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I saw it a handful of days ago and put the entire instance on my client’s filter list because the person I saw was not smart and I didn’t have a good feeling.

Meant instance, said instant

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Trust your instincts

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Damn even Lemmy.today wasn’t having none of that.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

Don't worry, all the usual suspects have accounts on this server

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, did we defed an instance?

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

No... I dont know where that page gets its information but anyone can check https://lemmy.today/instances and maga.place is right there, along with every other instance in the fediverse.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We still federate with every other instance, including this one. Not sure how that site collects its information but we are federated with every other instance: https://lemmy.today/instances

Since we are a small instance, we dont get much/any trouble by being federated with everyone. It may be different for large ones.

Users can block instances if they want, its simple to do in settings for everyone. Its not up to me to decide what users should read.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those remaining green servers are probably good candidates for defederation too.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago

I assume they're newer instances coming online and federating with all they can. I'll check back in another week.

[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know the admin of at least one of them and they're definitely not on board with that shit.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah my mistake I didn’t realize the green ones were the new servers that spin up in the last week and the black ones are the ones that haven’t defederated yet.

[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

The green ones are not all new servers, they're just newly federated. Meaning they just didn't know about it before now. Can't defederate what you're not aware of.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why were they federated anywhere in the first place and what changed?

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of the fediverse runs on a blacklist, not a whitelist. This means that new instances are federated by default as a general rule, though content only travels through instances when it's requested by users in some way or another.

Blocking an instance is not much more work than banning a user, so in most cases it's not a huge problem to have to actively defederate from bad actors.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah but then you get shit like, invisible maga replies to all of your comments….
you don’t see them because you “blocked” the instance, but to everyone else there’s three paragraphs of maga shit around everything you write….
soft blocking like this is weak and it is a problem until they’re defederated.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I said blocking here I meant in the meaning defederating.

On mastodon you'd mute users if you want them to still see your posts, and block them to cut them off. Not aure how that works on Lemmy, but I was referring to defederation. :)

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

gotcha… i misunderstood….
if you personally block someone on lemmy you just mute them. they can still see and comment on anything you post, but you won’t see it.
to me that’s almost worse.
i want my blocks to mean they can’t see me at all.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, real moderation needs to happen on the instance level for sure. :)

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do these colors mean?

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

Red was removed, i.e. was federated last week but not this week. Green was added in the last week. The remaining few were federated and still are.

This is a diff of their instances page a from last week Friday to today.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

We gave them the Gab treatment! Good work team.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

lemmy.inbutts.lol