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[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm somewhat excited but I'm still going to hold some back until they reveal who this mystery OEM is. I really don't want to move from one big corporation to another

[–] refalo@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What non-big corporation makes mobile phones?

[–] xav@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would go with Fairphone in a heartbeat

[–] unrealMinotaur@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have indicated it will not be Fairphone

[–] xav@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yess I know. I was just saying it's not just big corps making worthy phones.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's kind of my point. I get that making phones is complicated, but it'd be nice to have better hardware options, too.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It always seemed odd to me that you needed a pixel. I know it's for reasons but google is an anti-privacy company at it's core.

If they can break away from Google I will buy one next.

[–] chasteinsect@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Depends who they go with. I for one would not be a fan of buying a Chinese phone but it will probably be Chinese.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean Taiwanese, right?

Chinese components, American components. All made in Taiwan!

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well Qualcomm chips are made in Taiwan. Most of the phones are actually made in China or India (PCBs and assembly) I believe.

[–] uncrme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean does it really matter if they offer all the hardware security features and it's running with GrapheneOS, which is FOSS

There's nothing inherently less secure about a device just because it's Chinese lol

[–] chasteinsect@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

From a privacy / security POV you're probably right but I just don't want to support Chinese companies right now, at least where possible.

[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

please make the battery/hardware repairable

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 16 points 2 weeks ago

That would be nice but I do wonder how much the Graphene project is going to be involved in hardware decisions if it is a major OEM. Sounds like it'll be more just a phone where the OEM provides support of bootloader unlocks and installation of graphene

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Too bad google stopped shipping pixel specific code in the AOSP tree. Maybe they wouldn't be contemplating dropping the pixel 11 if that was still the case.

[–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure Google is very upset about it

[–] Turret3857 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Im confused. Graphene has been saying this for at least a couple years. Is there a change now where they're actually finalizing something?

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

If I read previous articles right, Google has stopped shipping Pixel specific hardware drivers down to the android open source project, so any hardware support graphene figures out going forward has to be reverse engineered anyway.

So that's some additional motivation at least.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like Google is no longer giving security patches as quickly as the used to. I may be wrong.

[–] Turret3857 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean we've known that for a couple months. I want to know if Graphene is actually close to releasing something or if this is just digging up old quotes where they're just saying "we're working with an OEM" like they have been for the past couple years.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know about releasing an actual phone but they've released closed source patches for testing. They have the code but they can't opensource the code until google does so publicly, so yes they've got a OEM partner.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115164133992525834

[–] uncrme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's more that Google is making it significantly more difficult for non-Google sanctioned projects to operate on Pixel phones and there may come a time when it's no longer feasible to develop GrapheneOS for the Pixel

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They said for at least a couple of years that they want to expand to other phone models or that they're partnering with a major OEM?

The makers of GrapheneOS have confirmed they are partnering with a major Android OEM to bring the OS to Snapdragon-powered flagships.

[–] Turret3857 2 points 2 weeks ago

That they are partnering with an OEM. I remember the chatterings around it happening at least a year ago if not longer.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can't wait!