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Switching to linux has been the best decision i've made all year.
Just wish there was a good one-click-setup virtual display option for Sunshine that "just works." It's my white whale of features.
...and just to be clear, this is a multiplatform problem. There's a single mediocre 'easy' option in windows land and a very tinkery option in linux land.
Doesn't seem like any OS has caught up to the idea of fast streaming desktops quite yet. I'm convinced it's the future of computing though. Way better than old VDI options from days of yore.
Year of Linux on the desktop. Why not say it? It's been true for decades now.
year of the
itβs been decades.
Should we tell them?
let him rest, he has lost his mind from all the compiling through the years
So I've mucked around with ubuntu... gonna switch over to linux. Ideally something more user friendly at first.
Can someone TLDR Zorin OS vs Mint?
For now I just want something I can swap out my main device until I have more time to finish learning ubuntu.
Zorin has a commercial license for additional GUI front ends, installation support, and a bunch of "professional" apps. It's not clear if they've done something to make adobe/Autodesk/pro audio stuff work on Linux, pre-bundled their FOSS alternatives, or have made software themselves.
Personally, if I was looking for something "professional", I'd go PopOS!. But if I were a small or mid-sized business I'd consider Zorin Pro if I could get license to include additional support outside the installer... Or just buy System76 computers with PopOS! pre-installed and support built-in to their sales pipeline already.
That said, Mint is also very Windows (classic)-like in their GUI experince (intentionally). It also has one of the largest Linux communities focusing on GUI usability.
Depends on your use case on which flavor you should go. But for $50, I'm curious what Zorin's software suite is and might dive in.
I have the pro version, aaaand it's convenient.... But honestly all applications can be downloaded without much work. Zorin is also so stable that I've never had to contact support. The extra layouts is pretty nice tho.
This is more of a "donation" option imo. If you love foss you should definitely financially support projects that you endorse!
and a bunch of βprofessionalβ apps.
It is in fact a bunch of pre-installed free software. I like Zorin, but Zorin Pro just seems like a way to trick businesses into paying for the distro. I guess having access to a support team is nice, but otherwise it's not worth it at all.
I'd advise using Mint in place of Ubuntu as your training wheels/potential daily driver, since Ubuntu's developers (Cannonical) have the habit of making features and restrictions absent in the rest of the ecosystem (Snap comes to mind).
Mint has a much larger and more dedicated userbase, so you probably will have an easier time finding answers to questions (Mint's forums are pretty good nowadays), and it's been an established "Windows jumping-off point" OS for quite a few years now. Zorin is the new kid on the block (while they existed in the past, their quality was nowhere near on par with Mint), so I'd wait and see before checking them out.
Zorin vs Mint comes down to; do you like the color green or blue? Jokes aside they are basically the same. I prefer gnome(zorin) over cinnamon(mint). I also find Zorin does a better job guiding newbs from windows. For example if you would download and run a windows exe, then Zorin will show a pop-up telling the user about alternative Linux apps, or it will handle running windows apps for you through wine.
As a linux newb your choice of distro really doesn't matter too much. Just don't go for difficult stuff like Nix, Gentoo. Desktop Environment is where it's really at for newbs. So try out Kde Plasma, Gnome, Cinnamon and pick the one that you fancy.
Interesting! This is exactly why I asked. I knew the general consensus would be go with mint. I'm looking for an easy OS cuz I don't want a project car for my daily driver.
Mint is loved for a reason! One user takes a left turn, the other right. Like i said focus on desktop environments :)
as someone that have been scrolling lemmy daily for 2 years, i am surprised i have never heard of this distro, i thought being a lemming made me a linux expert
It's basically a linux distro that's meant to appeal to Windows users who want to keep the Windows look and feel.
In other words, blasphemy in this church.
blasphemy in this church.
Indeed tis spoken oft as heresy in the Cathedral...
...But perhaps opinions are more diverse in the Bazarr?
I honestly dont know what would drive a Windows refugee to choose such a niche and likely unable to support them distro.
Marketing
Did it three days ago. Took the windows partition out back and formatted it.
If you donβt mind me asking, why did you choose Zorin? How do you hear about Zorin?
This is just wonderful news.
I've never used Zorin. It doesn't seem to match my preferences and needs. Regardless, anyone switching from Windows [and Mac] to any Linux distro is fantastic for all of us, including remaining Windows users (probably not Mac users though).
Let's hope more keep switching, leading to a surge in Linux, and open source in general, funding. More people becoming interested in Linux development, potentially turning into more and more open source devs. I think we can be quite optimistic about this.
It feels pretty fucking ironic when my old macbook/laptop supports new OS versions for a decade, but my few years old high-end gaming PC? Outdated for Win11.
Windows 10 support ends. Open the floodgates. Let the windows refugees come !!
Anyone have strong opinions about Zorin?
Already downloading it out of curiosity. The app to connect with your phone over the local network looks cool.
Zorin has laudable aims but it's delivered in a flawed way. It's essentially Gnome with extensions to make it look and feel like other GUIs. Problem is, Gnome is not a good base for this type of approach - it is fundamentally not flexible and not designed for this. So Zorin is basically deliberating breaking Gnome to make it into something it's just not meant to be under the hood.
Zorin looks very nice graphically and seems good at at first but then niggles come along. Minor but constantly present.
I think it's probably OK for a Linux newbie but not ideal long term and doesn't have the user base to make it as easy to get support as Mint for example.
If you do want to mimick other GUIs then really don't start with Gnome. You can achieve much better results using KDE on any distro; KDE by design is flexible and it doesnt require breaking fundamental design decisions made for Gnome to mimick something else. Only downside to do-it-yourself with KDE is if you do want to perfectly mimick another GUI then it is a manual process of finding themes and skins that match the aesthetic you want.
That's becuase Linux is it's own thing and not focused on trying to mimick other DEs (even if some GUis have superifical similarities to Windows or MacOS).
I get what Zorin is trying to do, but I think using Gnome is a mistake but also for me the basic idea of "familiar to ease you in" doesn't really work. Better for people to learn how Linux is different - there is a choice in design philosophies but all of them are shaped around what Linux is and how it works rather than what Windows or MacOS are.
Familiarity is very important for onboarding users. You'd be surprised how easy people give up because something is different. Kde Plasma is great, I run it myself, but information overload and flexibility is more likely to deter the average pc user than to win them over.
The fact that they default to Brave Browser already makes me wary. I have plenty of issues with Mozilla myself, especially their recent trend of integrating AI into the browser but I would rather use a fork or even vanilla Chromium rather than Brave. I know it's just the default and you can switch easily but the fact they landed on THAT out of all available options doesn't give me confidence, I would go with Mint instead.
Its a good lazy out of box distro which is why I use it. I don't have to tweak or install much to get work done once installed. Most additions I have made are for some nice quality of life or just a niche thing (sending text to a network port for a virtual machine. oh and the virtual machine software). I complained that they should use kde and finally installed it myself but again I don't have to configure or add anything after installation to be using it for most things I do so I can hit the ground running. Again. Lazy.
Try KDE Connect for connecting to your phone. Works on Windows, Linux, and Mac. Also available on both Android and iOS.
No idea what the other commenter is on about, I used Zorin ~2 years ago. It's a great distro for people new to Linux, and IMO has the cleanest aesthetic of any distro I've used. It was also super stable and reliable.
My issue with it (and ultimately the reason why I moved) is that it aims to be very stable which means its packages can get very outdated. I think the Nvidia drivers they used at the time I was on it were two years old. It's not something most people would notice especially with how much Flatpak is used nowadays, but you'll run into annoying cases where that thing you want to update isn't available in that package manager.
Even looking at the website, Zorin 18 is out but it seems people on Zorin 17 will have to wait a few weeks for a way to upgrade.
When I used Zorin OS in the past (roughly 3 years ago), it was a pretty miserable experience, and was absolute garbage in comparison to Ubuntu and Mint back then, mainly due to a lack of polish.
That being said, it has been worked on quite a bit since then, and while I'm cautiously optimistic, I'll stick to recommending Mint for non-gaming and Bazzite for gaming users new to linux for the time being.
Started with Zorin but had a rough time. I didn't realize until actual months later that my issues were due to a hardware fault and had nothing to do with the OS. By the time I realized, however, I had settled on Mint. I've since tried a handful of distros but always come back to Mint because I'm so used to it now. I do recommend Zorin for its level of polish and apparent desire to simplify the transition for folks coming from Windows.
3 of my friends asked me to help them with linux installs this week XD
Amazing. Makes me truly happy.
I actually just switched to Zorin as my daily driver this past summer. Good riddance Windows
Why zorin?
Zorin and Mint are frequently recommended foe Windows users. With Zorin having paid support for schools etcetera.
Zorin is a bit more commercial but it looks good and not much can go wrong.
I'll never understand how people recommend Zorin or Mint instead of the, much more Windows-like, and HUGELY supported Kubuntu or Fedora KDE.
KDE Plasma is the way to go.