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[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So like regenerative breaking for e-bikes? Except that such a thing already exists.

[–] Natanael 9 points 2 months ago

Apparently regenerative breaking efficiency in bikes is rather limited (small motors / generators, high friction). It still increases the range a fair bit (enough to be a better investment than bigger batteries), but efficiency is still not as high in bikes as in bigger vehicles which can drive more kinetic energy into bigger generators with better individual wheel control

Some paper says ~25% extra range in bikes at the high end vs ~50% energy savings in Japanese trains. Different units for those numbers, but you can infer that trains has much more efficient regenerative breaking because that number indicate a doubled range for the same amount of energy used.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Does he have a fundme or patreon page? I think it's worth supporting his research if it can be applied to cars and trains one day.

If somebody is an airplane engineer, is it possible to do something like that with planes? It would be great if planes could become environmentally friendly with such technologies.

[–] a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hello, I am the owner of a large investment fund and I am willing to offer 1 billion dollars to develop this young man’s technology

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[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I am not well versed in modern electric bikes. Do they offer regenerative braking yet?

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

A mechanical engineering student that doesn't know the law of energy conservation?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unironically, I would enjoy a bike that I could pedal at a constant speed, charging the battery all the while. Give me a display that indicates my pedaling speed so that I can tailor my exercise and you’ve created a moving stationary bike. I hate having to stop at lights and whatnot, so a rotation-based stabilizer would be nice at speeds below 10 km/h as I pedal the equivalent of 30.

Really, it’s just unfortunate that the engineering doesn't work out for momentum->chemical energy unless you’re biking at a professional level and willing to cruise slowly or charging the battery at home. Bleh

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[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 9 points 2 months ago

At this point just cut the middle man and have battery 1 directly charge battery 2, then reverse it when it's done. Same results with way less hassle

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Unrelated, but the pedaling cadence people have on ebikes bothers me. I'm always seeing folks in a high gear slowly pedaling. I'm like dude you're sacrificing watts! Pedal faster on a lower gear, you'll use the same energy but go faster.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You could harvest energy from going down hills and braking, but that’s probably not work the weight.

[–] cron@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

For each second of using regenerative braking, you can accelerate for 0.7 seconds.

But how much do you actually brake when riding a bicycle? That's completely neglectable (at least for me).

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

🤦‍♂️

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

There was this browser game (on the BBC website IIRC) with a Wallace and Gromit theme, in which you build stuff.
It had a level in which you make a vehicle-ish contraption and see how far it goes ^[or more like whatever contraption you can make to get the dummy to go as far as possible. Could even be a cannon, launching the dummy.]. I managed to setup a motor and generator in such a way that it effectively increased the vehicle's range by quite a bit.
I don't remember well enough now, but I think the generator didn't give as much resistance as the energy it was creating.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I cannot facepalm any harder. Dude that's some 8yr old question shit

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, many electric bicycles power themselves while going down hills or costing. As for the other idea that you could recharge them just by pedaling ... That exists already. Almost nobody wants it because it's easier to plug your bicycle in. The point of the electric bicycle is to do less work, not to do more. Otherwise you would get a regular bicycle because it weighs less.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean... regenerative braking is a thing.

My hybrid Prius C had this, and yes, you actually can build up some useful amount of charge from just rolling down a decently large or long hill, and you can also run the car on pure EV mode, though you're probably not gonna top 20 mph on a flat road.

Obviously this does not create an over unity situation or perpetual motion machine, but, if this guy can figure out a way to put a regenerative braking type device onto an E-Bike, or maybe motorcycle/moped, in a way that isn't stupid expensive...

That could increase overall range, and I think it would be neat.

Though I... don't really know why you wouldn't just use one battery for the whole system, just have a modulation/regulation system for it.

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