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I am sure this article has been shared before, however I wanted to have a look at this topic.
The articles short summary is this:

All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label – making cars the worst category of products that we have ever reviewed

I am currently driving a 2014 Ford Fiesta which just has a radio with a CD player and Bluetooth. I do not need more than that in a car.

The reason I am looking at all is that that the Fiesta does not belong to me and the friend owning it will be moving out in a bit, so I kinda need another one.

There seems to be one brand that is not as bad as the other ones (but still bad): Renault; mozilla's review...
Maybe I will have a look at their cars.

What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?

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[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

FWIW I did both a GDPR request and a Lexus Nexus data request on both of my Mercedes and they had zero info on me. My buddy did the same and same results. I’m not sure they are collecting any data even though they say they may, or they’re actually honoring the opt out setting. Either way I’m not worried about my Mercedes cars. My brother requested his data and his Toyota and Lexus had a LOT of info on him.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was lucky enough to buy new in 2017, just before all the ridiculous privacy violations hit the fast lane

By the time this car is done for, I will have no option available that is not a privacy violation on wheels... jailbreaking/hacking will be my #1 purchase criteria of whatever my next car will be

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Your phone is tracking your every move.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Your cell provider is tracking many of your moves by seeing what cell towers you are talking to.

Your phone is only tracking your every move if appropriate spyware is installed.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong:

Like a "Smart" TV you can just not connect the car to the internet and ignore all the features requiring a SIM card or phone connection.

I'll just use a phone mount and ignore the infotainment shit entirely besides offline features if it comes to that.

I'll pull the dashboard apart and wire in a dumb radio/mount it somewhere.

I'd even find and destroy the antennas if I have to. I'll buy 3rd party ECU if I can't. Exhaust all options.

I can drive old cars too but eventually that gets unrealistic and hard to maintain.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Ahhh sorry but since a few years ago they all have automatic internet access for safety "reasons" which.. we need a name for sucking air in through the teeth they abuse thoroughly. And even long before that, the data is stored in the vehicle for upload when a connection is made.. unless you want to build a faraday cage around your car, you're tracked at a creepy level.

I think after the big degoogeling, we have to have to talk about the cars. I seriously wonder if their eu versions even are flashed without the more disturbing trackers. I seriously doubt there is any concern over it even since it is not talked about. Like they said in the article, this needs to rile people

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

We need more development of open source cars

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interesting point you bring up.

The inner workings and overall principles of the internal combustion engine are well-documented. There are also open-source engine controllers - Speeduino comes to mind. Electric motors and their controllers are also well-documented.

People build kit cars all the time, enough that many U.S. states actually have specific standards that a kit car must meet in order to be road legal; hilariously, these standards are often far lower than vehicles manufactured by an OEM.

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[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love the idea but the cynic in me sees the Mountains of hurdles, starting with the gigantic piles of money you need for development and certification.

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[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Older cars is the key, something without electronic/network based maintenance systems

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

How is the old Zoe there? It even asks for consent for maps data.

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