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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 62 points 3 weeks ago (41 children)

they couldn't and still can't handle their neighbor, so what makes them think they're now all the sudden ready for a new multinational conflict? what is Russian for spread too thin? reliance on their asset djt is helping them but is it enough?

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[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Remember that they want Europe to be afraid and stockpile material that otherwise would go to ukraine.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean this was true 20 years ago, it wasn't as obvious before they invaded Georgia in 2008 (let alone now), but multi decade research (including research that accounts for preference falsification) has clearly shown a consistent level of support among a strong majority of russian society for genocidal imperialism.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Russian society's genuine love for genocidal imperialism has nothing to do with propaganda (if that's what you were referring to).

Mind you, they are fully capable of change, they just don't want to and have no incentive to do (Westerners enabling and promoting their victim-hood narratives only contributes to this).

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Define "ready", Martin Jaeger. They're second best in Ukraine, so it can't be in terms of capacity to win.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If you disregard ability to win, any one of us is technically ready to attack Europe.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have an army of 1 with a water pistol ready to annex Switzerland

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You'd have a better chance than most armies, because they might actually let you in like that.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, too late, they blew the bridges and tunnels in before he finished saying "Switzerland".

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Watch out Europe, I'm coming, and I demand tribute in quality cheeses!

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Putin is testing for years how far he can go. He uses salami tactics on NATO for ages.

A bit of sabotage here, planes and drones flying in or over NATO territory, ghost ships and shadow fleets doing crimes, disturbing GPS, etc, etc, etc.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Half his military has blown up in Ukraine.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He still has the dangerous bits. The question is, though, how dangerous they still are...

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

They’ve done that for literally forever yeah. Not something new exactly

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A bunch of European businesses are still doing business with Russia, so doubt it's true.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Curious how he defines "ready".

[–] thecaptaintrout@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ready to fuck around. Not ready to find out.

Threatening and posturing to destabilize Europe and NATO, while going heavily on grey zone warfare and divisive misinformation campaigns. At the top, should not want any kinetic warfare against NATO, but rhetoric, 'yes' men, and arrogance may make some think they can and should.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's Putin, always claiming he's got a royal flush even when just holding a pair to try to intimidate the opponent into folding. It's the same every time.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Also and as somebody else pointed out, if makes sense for him to try and scare European nations so that they refrain from sending as many weapons and ammo to Ukraine because of thinking they might need those to defend themselves from Russia.

So a sabble-rattling discourse and even the recent air-space intrusions by Russian military planes are cheap ways of trying to get the strategical gain of Ukraine receiving fewer weapons from the rest of Europe and even if those things fail he loses nothing from doing them (at this point, he's hardly going to get in a worst situation than he already put himself in).

It makes absolute sense to pursue a strategy where at best you gain something and at worst you lose nothing.

Now, if the response to the Russian intrusion in European airspace had been for European nations to set up and enforce a no fly for Russia inside Ukraine, that would've definitelly been a loss for him (at the very least the rest of Europe would protect Western Ukraine from Russian drones and air assets, freeing Ukranian assets to be used elsewhere), but the leaderships of European nations have yet to show a willingness or capability to act decisivelly like that as a group: even the help with weapons and ammo took ages to get going properly, was riddled with "red lines" (like "no tanks", then "no jets", then "no long range cruise missiles" and who could forget the whole "can't be used against Russian territory" artificial limitation) and there was a lot of feet-dragging, especially from Germany) so actual direct intervention even if only with air assets doesn't seem likely as response to "mere" Russian air space intrusions and unconventional warfare that can be denied (cyber attacks, election interference, support for extreme political forces, cutting of undersea cables and so on).

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[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

We've been hearing this for years.

I am ready to have a hot confrontation with a pack of rabid hyenas.

....actually, that didn't sound right.

you know what? I'll just leave.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting that this comes at a time when resistance against raising the military budget us growing. That must be a total coincidence...

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Russia will have their asses handed to them.

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