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for anyone this inspires to make the jump, i recommend Tidal and Bandcamp.
They is also Mirlo which plan to federate
Never even heard of Mirlo until now. Neat! Thank you for shining a light on it.
Link please ?
mirlo.space
Throwing out Stingray for people who often just need background music. Radio like music channels.
Looking at tidal, there doesn't appear to be a way to search for music? Am I losing it?
Edit: you have to login first. Honestly, bad first impression already.
Edit: you have to login first. Honestly, bad first impression already.
Spotify doesn't even let you into the app without logging in
I was on desktop not app, where Spotify will let you search its catalogue without login.
I set up a Funkwhale but tbh it is feature-poor
Which would you suggest as a selfhost alternative ?
Good for them. Bands don't need ai training on their songs without compensation.
I started buying music in 2015 (mostly Bandcamp) and I have no regrets. I have a big library now of drm free music. Some months I spend nothing and still enjoy music, without ads.
I don't mind sourcing my own music, but what I want is to be suggested songs based on what I listen to. My musical horizons have broadened a lot thanks to that.
I can't picture a service which beats Spotify in what they offer which isn't just the same business model but more ethical.
Discovering music for free is an enormous benefit, and the fact that Spotify has practically all mainstream music is nice. People often cite that one quote by Gabe Newell that is "Piracy is not an economic problem. It is a service problem", as a highlight for steam, but largely Spotify offers what consumers want in a way Netflix or Audible can't. They have everything you want and guide your discovery in even more, and as long as their encroaching enshittification doesn't undercut this service, they will continue to underpay artists and fund immoral activities.
The developer of Ultrakill, Hakita, said something which I've often thought about. "You should support indies if you can, but culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it. ULTRAKILL wouldn't exist if I hadn't had easy access to movies, music and games growing up. If you don't have money, you can support via word of mouth". There are plenty of independent things I financially support, particularly things I attend in person in the city I live in. I may spend £100 per month paying for art and entertainment all said and done, and when that's spent, I will pirate everything else.
I split a Spotify family plan between 6 friends, I think that's about £3.50 per month, and I pay for no other media services. With video, I run a jellyfin server with a "parent friendly" interface, so they can have "netflix with everything", which I have at my place too. I don't read that much any more, if it's physical I just go to the library and if it's an audiobook I'll just pirate it. The benefit here is that even if I'm on a reading binge, that's not even a book a week. With Spotify, I often pick something and play it via song radio, which is probably 50/50 music I know and new music. Sometimes I just stick albums on, but it's not like that's harder. If I had a locally hosted music repository that I'd "paid for", I could enjoy albums, but not as easily have a radio like discovery experience.
One day, a pirate tool may appear that rivals Spotify, but until that day, I can't see myself moving away from it.
Go to your local live music, drag shows, theatres, independent cinemas and libraries. Don't feel obligated to pay for any internet service.
Last.fm?
I use both listenbrainz and chosic for suggestions. Both work well.
I want to jump ship it's just daunting when the other platforms I try can't match the library. I ported a small playlist to Qobuz and only a third of the tracks were available. I have an offline library but I have been lazy and its unmaintained.
Try Tidal. At least it pays artists more and has better sound quality. Allegedly. The downside is that their catalogue is more messed up like albums from different same named artists grouped together.
Yeah, I think I'll be jumping ship soon .... like most people mention ... at one point you only listen to the same 100-200 tracks all the time anyway.
JackFM, runs a radio station 24x7, 365, on about 300 songs.
The real trick is making playlists that repeat properly. You need a couple of bangers and then a bunch of supporting stuff that was good, but isn't ear warm worthy, matching beats and genre then flow into the next selection set.
I cancelled my Spotify last night.
Went through my favourites list and bought a bunch of tracks on bandcamp.
Going back to my old ripped cds and mp3s is a nice feeling tbh.
I jumped ship about a year ago or whenever it was they signed on Joe Rogan. Now my policy is no subscriptions and only by DRM free. So mostly bandcamp and garage sale CDs for me. If there was a record shop within 70 miles I'd probably hit that up too but unfortunately not an option.
im on yt music,
it's now flooded with AI music, going to cancel
Also it funds Google which is ... not ideal
if only there was a stremio for music.
(is there?)
On android, Metrolist allows YouTube music for free. You might need an account, but can be a disposable one, not the main one on the phone
You can download music via Newpipe if anyone is curious
Mp3s are at it. Because Spotty doesn't have some of the songs I actually like, and record companies even remove tracks that were previously available on physical media.
I've been downloading FLAC (lossless), and when I transfer to my phone, I encode to Opus, which is supposed to have better sound quality than MP3 at comparable file sizes.
Streaming is all the bad things about the music industry but made a thousand times worse. The pay outs, the requirement of specific laws surrounding streaming that make it different than every other method of music delivery, the lack of control by the consumer, the lack of any kind of ownership, the requirement of always online connectivity, and on.
I don't want to be that boomer type person, but I'm pretty happy with staying with my CD and DVD collection that I have. I have a massive amount of portability, archiving, and it just works wherever I want to work. No fees, no internet required, and I have an immense amount of control over everything.
This is just one of those things that I'm glad that I didn't get into this. It has sounded terrible since it was first pitched and I think it's only gotten worse.
And no one in their right mind thinks it is a death wish to actual people, but to everything horrible it embodies.
I finally made the jump to tidal this month, my subscription to Spotify is running out. I hate giving my money to Spotify. Yeah, tidal ain't perfect, yet. But I hope with more people joining, it's going to be better soon
My biggest gripe with Tidal is that their catalogue is a mess - albums from same named artists grouped together.
Where do I like... buy... music?
I do it on Bandcamp.
Bandcamp or many artists have digital purchase options on their website.
If you can't purchase it online you could do physical media.
Otherwise you can find other ways to get the music and support artists in other ways. Shows, merch and patreons usually go directly to artists.
Is there another service that has anything comparable to Spotify's family plan? I have like 4 other people on the family plan I pay for and I really don't wanna fuck them over by switching lol
I'm using Qobuz. As I know they pay the most to the artist ($0.01873 vs $0.004 ). Qobuz Family costs 20,83€ per months and I think you get free access to a service which moves your Spotify playlists to qobuz.
I think that's the point of all this. It's currently way too cheap for the consumers. Adjusted for inflation from the 80s, an album would cost over $30 today. Each album. To get infinite music for $10 a month, yeah the artists are getting screwed.
Apple Music has a family plan, and it's cheaper than Spotify's, at least in Canada (16.99 vs 20.99).
Qobuz has a family plan too, a little more expensive than Apple's here but still cheaper than Spotify's.
Bought myself a little digital audio player (basically the new name for mp3 players) and have been enjoying porting rockbox to it / listening to my local library.
There's a still a few cd/record stores in town which is pretty awesome for second hand stuff.
The Big problem I have now is. I have a Vinyl collection, and I enjoy listening to music (many different things) whenever I feel like it. The Spotify app itself is just so nice. Integrates well with my car, and I have a few huge playlists. Much of this music I bought already physically. But if I were to switch to a different app I feel like I need to change alot more, and in the example of Bandcamp i would have to pay a large sum to get my playlist back up.
Also. I have gotten so used to it and so tired of trying to do the right thing. I just want to listen to some music ffs.
I stopped using it. I have a navidrome server I run and purchase songs from artists directly when possible, otherwise, I acquire them and support artists directly in other ways
I used a free online service to rip my Spotify playlists to MP3s. Now what? (for Android)
You have a bunch of mp3s? Just add them to an app that plays mp3s like Winamp
I did this 3 years ago.
What are your thoughts about old music, should it be pirateable? I mean I don't think those 1990 bands will get a cent from Spotify, or do they?
It would be lovely sharing songs with fellow online people IMO.
Bands? No or at least not all of them. Labels? Certain!