Canada

I say we do this. The ONLY reason Canada put tariffs on Chinese EVs is because of the US - back when the US was our friend. Those days are well over.

From what I understand, Chinese EVs out perform the US ones (charge quicker with longer range) and are way cheaper.

With Canada so obsessed with keeping vehicle manufacturing jobs to the detriment of every Canadian not wanting to buy American cars. Why does Canada drop the Chinese tarrifs but demand certain assembly and manufacturing of Chinese vehicles happen in Canada?

Sounds like a win win, but they are too stuck on the idea they should only manufacture cars from incumbent companies that are stuck in the past. Canada has significant geological resources like lithium and rare earth metals is an even better reason to be excited about EV production in Canada.

If Chinese manufactures can exceed Canadian standards, provide spare parts for a minimum of 10 years from the date of manufacture, provide a minimum of 10 years of software support/updates, AND allow all software to be audited for both safe function and security. Then sure. Bring on the cheap EVs.

(But not even our current domestically produced vehicles meet those requirements)

Ten years ago I'm not sure I'd have said this, but now: fuck it. We should just get into bed with China. They seem totally uninterested in wars at all unless you're Taiwan, which we're not. Trade matters. They seem stable. Sure there are some human rights issues but given all the human rights issues fucking everywhere right now, like. I dunno. I'm for it.

Sounds like an easy decision; we sell our rapeseed and get non-American cars.

On October 8th, after Carney's meeting with Trump, Lutnick said that the US is going to insist on dominating the North American auto market and have assembly all happen in the US with Canada being forced into a subordinate role.

We need alternatives.

I doubt we will make this deal with China, because the US will not tolerate that, but it would be much better for Canadians.

Canada needs to diversify the trade to rely less on the USA. The current gov has a huge problem on their hands but also opportunities to do something new!

When it comes to the EV tariffs I see opportunities for Canada, we have factories, some of the raw materials, Human Resources, experienceand logistics in place for the automotive industry! The Ev industry needs more than the cars there is a new ecosystem that can be worked with Chinese companies by doing knowledge transfer, manufacture autos + parts by bringing the suppliers as well. EVs need batteries and the charging network, we can bring these items to the trade talks.

China al has the largest high-speed rail network and why not expand the deals to help Canada build our high-speed rail Network?

Do it. Canola is an important industry to Canada and we don't make evs here anyway.

Australians have access to Chinese EVs, why can't we?

There is/should be a lot of room for compromise.

A mix of "reasonable" tariffs and quotas to start, to make Chinese EVs competitive without destroying domestic manufacturing is a good path. Canada needs investment. Whether foreign auto makers do it, following through on previous commitments, shutting out China can be a reward for them.

Without choosing to provide value cars to Canadians, Canada could offer agriculture for Chinese (solar) energy trade. Pemitting them to boost capacity even more.

Instead of begging the US to buy (and own through investment) our resources, Chinese development would help significantly as well.

Corrupt ideology programmed into Canadians is bad for Canada. We need new friends instead of abusers, and the only reform of an abuser possible comes when they beg for forgiveness when you flirt with new friends.

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Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics, and stops spying on us, and builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians, we can talk about their fucking EVs. Until then, we already have one international bully as a trade partner, we don't need more.

Serious question; how much does China subsidize EV sales to glut markets and buy market share? I'm guessing it's non-zero.

I'd love to see canola embargoes open because I have a bunch of bins full, but is this fair to other vendors, domestic and other foreign makers?

Seems to me that the happy medium here might be a lower tariff. 100% was never justified, but 10% or 25% might be. Just enough to allow European and Japanese manufacturers (I don't give a damn about the US at this point) to price their vehicles somewhat competitively even though they don't have the advantage of ignoring labour rights.

It's not like Chinese EV's are bad, but they have started a war to overtake EV industry.
Their government is founding EV companies, to advance and take the lead, putting at risk companies like Ford, BMW and so on.

I sawthis video, and I saw how they have managed to change battery instead of charging the car, and I was impressed of what they can actually do.

Between USA that has gone completely mad and this other superpower, China, that supports Russia, which wages war against its allies, this put Canada in a difficult situation. Canola and electric vehicles might just be entry level bargaining points ... who knows, certainly not me.

I don't drive, but that'd be cool if canola oil became even cheaper. :3

I'd buy a Chinese EV. I need an inexpensive vehicle to go from A to B in a city. There doesn't seem to be an inexpensive option anymore in North America.