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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 5 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Wait, are there any convicts left? The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month, I would have guessed they were the prefered ones...

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago

Convicts are already hardened in the art of survival

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I thought the point was to get them killed as fodder before they could return home.

They maybe get a few Ukrainian kills in, and no longer have to pay to incarcerate a person.

They can't even get that right?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

SOURCES SAY!

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone here jumps on the band wagon, but seriously, 500 is nothing. It will do absolutely nothing. He could not care less.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

The 500 number is the number of victims from returning soldiers as of October 2024, not the total number of incarcerated soldiers in service as your comment implies.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 84 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

242 killed by returning soldiers

The six-month battlefield stint didn't diminish Azamat Iskaliyev's appetite for violent revenge against women.

The 37-year-old was sentenced to nine-years in jail after he killed his wife by stabbing her in his car in the summer of 2021 because she wanted a divorce.

Soon after returning to civilian life, he knifed an ex-girlfriend more than 60 times in the shop where she worked in October 2024 after she rejected his advances.

For that crime, he was jailed for more than 19 years, according to court records in the city of Saratov.

This case is one shocking example of the social problems that could await Russia as thousands of prisoners turned soldiers return home following an eventual end to the war.

Verstka, an independent Russian media outlet, reported that by October 2024 almost 500 civilians had become victims of soldiers returning from fighting in Ukraine.

The report said at least 242 people had been killed, and a further 227 were gravely injured, citing data from Russian court records.

Russia about to perform the miracle of becoming an even shittier place.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He only got nine years for murdering his wife and was out within three years? How does that happen?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 7 points 2 hours ago

That's the background for the story: Russia sent their convicts to war in trade of a "get out of jail"-card.

The guy was in jail for killing his wife. He took the deal and was sent to war. He got shot, got sent home as a free man, and immediately started killing people again.

It's not a single case. It's likely that convicts are taking the deal, not just to get out of jail, but also so they can go back and get revenge over those that put them in jail in the first place.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There is some irony is that the main part of a public sentiment in favor of Putin is that there wouldn't be another 90s era of violence and economical instability as long as he is in power. Well, the economy is somehow stable in how it degrades, but the amount of street violence climbs on. Out of last three times I took a fight in my block, first was in ~2008, last two happened in 2024, both with dead drunk proud boys in vomited over camo clothes, asking me if I served. It's not yet the 90s level of chaos, but I can't imagine having a daughter there. Many, as I've heard, share the same anxiety, but nevertheless can't figure out who created that problem in the first place.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

thank you for your service

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Fuck you too.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 48 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Russia has a ton of practice at becoming an even shittier place.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Someone said that Russian history can be condensed into “…and then everything went to shit”

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago

I believe the quote is, "and then everything got worse"

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's like their thing.

It's actually kind of mind boggling. Lenin knew this was a thing and took all sorts of steps to correct it, but his mistake was demanding it to improve by force. "We're making your lives better now, or else."

I mean, shit, a big ass group of armed dudes on horses show up in my cold ass disconnected village and they say we need to do x, y, and z to improve our lives or else? Yeah that's sus.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s almost like all authoritarian government is actually a bad thing

Looking at you, China, USA

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Gestures broadly to all recorded history.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 113 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Who could have predicted the risks of having an army of murder-rapists with PTSD? /s

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 50 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago

Such as it is

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

PTSD

Pre war or post war? Probably both.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody likes to meet the Gaddafis of their actions.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

To NATO staging a coup and overthrowing a popular leader because the leader did not obey their OPEC cartel?

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'll buy the most expensive alcohol available the day that happens, hopefully recorded in 4K.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, it reads like he fears for society but I really think he fears directly for himself just as much 🥂

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Who could have forseen this?

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Good. He can end all of this with one sentence. However, the consequences will be felt in Russia for a generation to come, that 1.5 million he sent to be killed will be missed.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not only in Russia, unfortunately. Irreversible damage has been done to Ukraine, and of the reversible not much will ever be I fear.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

At least Ukraine can show that some positives have come out of the war for them, too. Their bonds with Europe have strengthened, their national identity has been forged in fire. I'm not saying it wouldn't have been awesome if the war had never happened, or that it was a net benefit, but at least they are coming out of this with some real tangible benefits in addition to the tragic losses.

Russia gets nothing and loses everything.

[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 hours ago

identity forged in fire

Ukraine is a strong runner up for hating russia. Poles can almost see them over the horizon behind them.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago

Good. I hope he dies slowly.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 6 points 8 hours ago

I just watched this episode of DS9

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 hours ago

Ukraine can help him solving that problem.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Smart

Not the adjective I would choose. He has good reason to be fearful - both personally and for his country, which makes it personal again. That has nothing to do with intelligence, it's a lizard brain thing.

It also isn't like he had a wise premonition here; many convicts already returned and they are already "destabilising society".

[–] 48954246@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, more like "brief moment of self awareness"