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[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

What I read from this graph, Reagan was the last great president, he truly made America great again.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago

Folksy fascism. He was the "plain spoken" proto-Trump. Some worshipped him with a similar cult-like fervor.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

My parents, both life-long democrats, voted for him. I didn't understand that, and I was only 15 at the time. Four years later, when I got to vote in my first Presidential election, I voted for Mondale. I've voted Democrat ever since in an attempt to balance out the Fascists.

The thing is, the Dems never pleased me either. I've realized in recent years that voting for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. There should be a better way.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While I am not thrilled with the Dems, if you get progressive enough dems, they will institute ranked choice voting, which is the path out of a 2 party system. GOP has never done this.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This. The only way out is an evolution of one of the two existing parties due to the probabilistic nature of FPTP. Step one is short-circuiting media, and establishing a working class unity against the rich. Need blue collar voters united to start pushing for constitutional changes state by state.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

Boomer Blue collar workers are somehow convinced that the Republican Party is their best friend. Fucking rubes

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

Sure, they'll do this just as soon as they enact universal healthcare, or federal maternity leave, or get money out of politics. Any day now ...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

<Trump, about to suggest replacing FPTP with generational monarchy>: "Hold my hamberder..."

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

We have two parties that are shifting to the right and prioritize the rich at every turn. And yet, somehow, we're supposed to keep pretending that voting is going to fix anything in this country.

Voting is a bandaid and we're bleeding out at this point.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

The US has a 2 party system, until that changes, it will always be this way.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago

I completely agree with you. But I base my vote solely on who has the most of those little road side signs at stop lights.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

There should be a better way.

More parties and coalitions to govern. Of course in the US there's lots of regulation that makes that all but impossible, so such laws have to change, some of them retroactively.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago

The better way is to build up political momentum locally, and then keep taking every seat you can

Luckily, there's a back and forth swing in political momentum as well, and right now progressives are making huge strides

[–] airbreather@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For those that don't know, 1971 is when President Richard Nixon ended the convertibility of U.S. dollars into gold for foreign governments. The final abandonment in 1971 moved the U.S. to a pure fiat money system, where the currency's value is based on government decree rather than a physical commodity like gold.

Reagan slashed taxes for the wealthy and introduced the whole idea of trickle down economics.

These fuckers have been stealing from us for half a century.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rebranded the idea of trickle down.

The concept has existed since the late 19th century; it was formerly called "Horse and Sparrow Economics," as the horses eat the whole grains, and sparrows peck their meals from the horseshit.

[–] TheBenCommandments 8 points 18 hours ago

Dems have always had a messaging issue, but undoing that rebranding would be a step in the right direction.

That’s a striking mental image. And it’s becoming increasingly obvious that’s exactly what’s happening—we get to pick the scraps out of the billionaires’ shit.

[–] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I despise this website. It is so wildly misleading, especially since most of the graphs don’t actually radically change until the 80s. There is no one thing that caused everything/could fix everything, it was a lot of policy changes and deregulation through the 70s and 80s.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 5 points 18 hours ago

Because policies and actions are always instantly felt and measurable.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So the graph is wrong then, should be Nixon.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, all those graphs tell very different stories and even if they did, it wouldn't inherently mean the transition to fiat was the problem.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

people who don't understand currency crack me up. it's like pretending the value of specie was tied to the value of precious metal by fiat makes it special.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I get why it's so hard to understand, economics (even when studied) isn't really a science and a lot is based in vibes.

Bitcoin is a fascinating example of a modern day commodity based system. Theoretically there is a finite amount of bitcoin that can exist, meaning there is a limited supply that controls the "market". And as we can see in the bitcoin market, commodity has its own problems (most notably people don't really want to spend it).

There are even some research done in the space, I'm not familiar with the Cato institute, but there write up here seems like a decent explanation of gold vs bitcoin - https://www.cato.org/blog/how-bitcoin-system-unlike-gold-standard

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

IMHO economics has been gradually becoming more of a science since the 1970s. We just haven't changed monetary policy since then, so crypto is the most isolated petri dish we've got.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

i am familiar with the cato institute and they're a propaganda outlet

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Good to know, most of what they were saying didn't sound too far off, but only skimmed it. I'm not a huge crypto person to begin with though, so I may just shrug off some of their bias.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

the best lies have a lot of truth sprinkled in them

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

If you reverse this its a solid chemical equilibrium graph.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I should have invested in bad thing back then.

[–] knowWhat420@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

That's how billionaires make their money.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think we all did

[–] Ron@zegheteens.nl 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It started even before him.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

you can always go back further, but it's clear that Raegan was a pretty significant stepping stone in general enshitification.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Some say as far back as 1776 when "All men are created equal" was just a blatant lie from the start.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As much as we could put it all on him, and he has a lot to do with it, it's not just him. It's the corporations that took over.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We could have reversed course had Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission never been decided the way it was. There have been some doozie political decisions over the years, but that's the one that solidified the destruction of the country.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Also Nixon.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Yes, mostly thanks to him.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Bad things doing good. Real good.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

Simplified, but true. Even so, my controversial brain has lots to add...

[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's illegible for people with color blindness, but I get the point...

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The "some metric" is also on the wrong axis, since it's clearly showing time on the horizontal.