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Linux Phones

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The Discussion on Linux-based Phones.


Benefits:

  • Hardware freedom.
  • Perfect operating-system competition.
  • Full utilization of specs.
  • Phone lifespan raises to 10+ years.
  • Less e-waste.

Linux Mobile Distros:

  • Ubuntu Touch
  • Sailfish
  • FuriOS
  • Postmarket OS
  • Mobian
  • Pure OS
  • Plasma Mobile
  • LuneOS
  • Nemomobile
  • Droidian
  • Mobile NixOS
  • ExpidusOS
  • Maemo Leste
  • Manjaro Arm
  • Tizen
  • WebOS

Linux Mobile Hardware:

  • Fairphone 5
  • Volla Phone
  • PinePhone
  • FLX1
  • Librem 5

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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The downfall of Android (and the Pixels) is not entirely unexpected, but now progresses shockingly fast.
Damn, we need alternatives...

[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The Furi Labs phone actually looks decent for a Linux phone. Outdated SoC, but probably good enough. Is Phosh actually usable now or is it still pretty janky?

Also, gotta note that I hate how a lot of these Linux phone companies talk about having amazing security when they're actually talking about privacy. Security is definitely gonna be worse than Android.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Security is definitely gonna be worse than Android.

How so?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

Android has (as standard) stuff like sandboxing, SELinux, verified boot, FDE, etc. It's possible to get stuff like this working on normal Linux, but it's a lot of work (more for some things than others). Also the standard Linux solutions for e.g. sandboxing are just not as robust as what's provided by Android.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

My problem is they had this phone then released a Linux version and made it worse but just added a letter onto the name. I'll pass the screen is the thing used the .OST and they put in a worse one.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Xperia 10 III is much better with SailfishOS, it you can get one second hand (it's officially supported).

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah but any alternative will just be aggressively bought by one of the big companies. It's hard to hold integrity and not sell when you are probably struggling to make growth.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, graphene be like:

[–] Object@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago

MEANWHILE, GRAPHENE BE LIKE:

OVERRIDE CARRIER SETTINGS, BITCH!

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. I noticed the changes in the last release chanfelog and had no idea what this was about. Now I get the whole story. And yeah i also got the options now! Sadly mine is a low-cost prepaid sim provider in my country (5 bucks monthly for 60GB data with calls), and after checking with them they don't have support for these functions yet for any phone. They don't have 5G at all, and neither vowifi, for any device. So I won't try messing with them.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Google is becoming increasingly hostile to projects like GrapheneOS. I hope their deal with the new OEM they're working with succeeds and provides them some shelter. People buy Pixel phones specifically to install GrapheneOS, so it must help Pixel sales, but of course when Google notices something good happening they have to try to crush it.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

The only reason I got mine was for graphene.

Should it become unusable to run graphene i will absolutely NOT use it with google firmware. I'll flash it to stock and sell it. (I'm not cruel enough to give it to someone I know)

I got it new super cheap, anyway. (From my carrier, for $120 - $5/mo for 24 months)

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago

Google is becoming more controlling overtime.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why block it in the first place? :s

[–] tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They talk about it in the article.

In theory, any phone with the right hardware for a carrier’s cellular frequencies should be able to use VoLTE, and any capable phone with a supporting plan should get VoWiFi. The reality, however, is more complex. Many carriers only permit VoLTE and VoWiFi on devices they sell or have officially tested. This means that even if your imported Pixel has the necessary hardware, the carrier can still block these features, potentially preventing you from making voice calls entirely.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] henfredemars 16 points 3 weeks ago

A mixture of greed and laziness yes. They’d rather you just bought from them.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is typically the answer to problems these days. Rich fucks who want more than they can use before others are allowed to have enough just to be.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Many carriers only permit VoLTE and VoWiFi on devices they sell or have officially tested.

This bit?

I guess I still don't understand. Maybe I'm too foss-brained. I mean if it, works, and it's been proven to work, why go out of your way to block it? Ofc, maybe I'm giving them too much credit for actually thinking and being logical.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

This is Bs. We didn't needcarriers approval for voice on 3G and below.