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Crime novelist Karin Slaughter had an interesting take in one of her stories.
Child molesters aren't in danger in prison because the prisoners have a sense of fair play and want to avenge the innocent victims.
The molesters are in danger because a lot of the men who end up in prison were abused as children and want payback in any form.
Oh that is an excellent point. There are some really violent, dangerous people in jail... who were horribly hurt as kids and want some form of justice
On the one hand, he has family, and it's horrifying that prisons are this slack. On the other hand... I probably shouldn't say my other thoughts. But let's just say I'm not shedding a tear.
If the Norwegian prison system significantly reduces inmate violence, then all deaths in more brutal prisons are in part the responsibility of the state.
Without reforms the state is putting prisoners in charge of this type of death.
There's someone in my family who got time for something similar and got released. I wish this happened to them.
I'm really sorry that happened in your family and hope you're ok now
I'm fine, I hope his daughters are fine.
I've been expecting this to happen ever since he got jailed. He was an extremely depraved individual who still seemed to show no remorse and even laughed at his crimes. Even some of the worst criminals in prison would be disgusted by what he did, and it doesn't surprise me that one decided to take him out.
How do I feel about it? I wouldn't celebrate it because it's not good that the prison service failed to prevent an inmate murdering another inmate. On the other hand, a violent death seems almost appropriate for how much of a monster Watkins was.
Former singer of Lostprophets if anyone doesn’t know. And I’m not surprised at all!
I think judges and prosecutors are cowards who won't go so far as to sentence child sex abusers to death, but instead sentence them to imprisonment, then put them in the general population knowing full well that that's effectively a death sentence anyway.
If the state is going to have child sex abusers killed, then the prosecutors and judges should own it. And if they're not willing to do that - if they can't or won't pass down a death sentence themselves - then they need to sentence them such that they'll be protected from the other inmates.
I honestly don't much care which they choose, but they need to choose one. This trick of avoiding responsibility by passing it on to inmates is cheap, dishonorable bullshit.
FYI Ian Watkins was Welsh and was sentenced in Cardiff in 2013; the death penalty was effectively abolished in the UK in 1965.
Then it's not even a matter of choosing one - they already chose one.
The rest of my point still holds - everybody involved, from the judge(s) on down to the prison guards - knew full well that putting a child sex abuser in with the other prisoners was effectively a death sentence, so for all intents and purposes, they did sentence him to death. They just relied on someone else to carry out the sentence for them.
So it would appear that the death sentence wasn't actually abolished - it was just disguised.
And that's cheap and dishonorable.
Many sex offenders serve out their sentence and are eventually released. If anything, the general consensus is that the UK justice system is too lenient on sex offenders (albeit the reality is far more nuanced than most discussions acknowledge).
I don't want vigilante justice to be the way we deal with people who's crimes go beyond the limits of morality.
Having said that, if someone rapes actual babies, there's no rehabilitation for that person, there's no saving them and if they ever were released it just means they'll inevitably reoffend.
I think the fact that his victims no longer need to concern themselves with future parole hearing dates, or indeed the completion of his sentence, is a good thing. He should never, ever have been allowed to leave prison, but even his full sentence was by no means an effective 'life sentence'; he would be out before reaching old age. So, one less thing to worry about for the victims.
I saw them live in 2003 supporting Linkin Park, when I heard about the arrest and subsequent conviction and the true horror of his crimes... I destroyed the CD's, I deleted the music from my computer.
I have never allowed their music to assault my ears again and never will.
I cannot and will not mourn such a piece of shit, and nor will I condemn the person who killed him... I'm not advocating that all paedophiles are killed, but I'm not going to be sad about a proven guilty and convicted being unalived.
lol
I have no sympathy for nonces
I'd have preferred it if he got stabbed until he was critical, recovered and then repeated again and again.
Mate that's a horrible idea! I mean, just think of the NHS resource that would have wasted.
That's just cruel think of the poor nurses who gotta heal a nonce
No way! Haha I literally called this the other day. I actually had never heard of him til a couple of days ago. Ive been in jail, and its the last place (much less prison) a sex offender wants to be, much less a child sex offender.. I learned how he was attacked by 2 inmates 2 years ago, then I joked with a guy on reddit that he wasnt going to make it out of prison.
Now, unfortunately, I believe this is a good outcome because the way he spoke and acted indicated that he would probably continue pedophilia after release. The investigators called him a "persistent" and "dedicated" pedophile... reading his crimes and his lack of remorse is disgusting... I have faith and hope in humanity, but im a realist too and understand some people will never change their evil ways.