How did they decompose if they were frozen? Or did this happen as they were thawed and basically just liquified as they warmed up?
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The second. Turns out cryo places take a ridiculous amount of energy to keep the corpses at the ‘proper’ temperature, and those running such places often cut corners, and so leave out things like backup generators. The suspension fluids also need refilling periodically, which often doesn’t happen.
Edit: if you want to read the article this post is quoting, you can find it here.
The freezer in Futurama didn't need any special shit. This is false.
Didn't one of these places recently lose power or go out of business?
Anyway, will all their frozen cell walls popped they probably turn to goo that much faster.
i think that business model is bs, but that should be treated and manslaughter.
given that the whole premise of the business is that they can be revived is kept in appropriate conditions. having the corpses decompose due to negligence is manslaughter. or if not, it means their business is fraudulent.
They're legally mausoleums or something, and don't accept living people, so... 🤷
No, no modern Cryonics facility has had this happen. The article is referring to an event decades in the past
You're really bored. 🤫
Would be more simple to skip the freezing and go straight to goo
Eh, one of the slower ways to kill a billionaire, but at least it is still killing them.
Few or no cryonicists are billionaires
Its pretty fast really. They're dead the second their body functions stop. Nobody has ever survived being frozen solid. Not really. Coming back from that is a death sentence.
The idea is that you put the frozen head in a brain scanner and the synapses are still intact so you can emulate them in a computer or specialised android hardware.
This way the rich can become imortal gods as the poor can be made to work 24/7 at 10000x efficiency
No, ideally the brain itself (at least) can actually be revived and made to be medically stable. Which assumes the preservation process does not cause too much damage.
(and also it's vitrification not freezing, though reversing it is still not something that has been done obviously)
I mean sure, some people are fine with a brain scan (and cryo companies might just say that to temper expectations)... but that sounds like idiot talk to me. I say this as someone who has thought about stuff like this for escapism reasons, not that I have any chance of covering even a reservation fee.
They made an entire game centred around this concept and why it doesn't work the way they want it to (it's also a dang good game in general and perfect pick for Spooktober).
Yeah... and it's a dumb idea. Consciousness is not software.
You don't know that. Literally, you don't. Nobody does. This might be your opinion and that's fine, but stating it as fact is disingenuous
That depends on their definition of software. If software is partly defined as something we can create, and consciousness is something we can't even fully understand, let alone create, then they are correct.
You don’t know that.
I also don't know whether ghosts exist. Will you go to bat for them, too?
but stating it as fact is disingenuous
Pretending that consciousness is software because movies and videogames portrays it working like software is far more disingenuous, I'd say.
"I call myself a millionaire because I might win the lottery someday"
We are legion. We are Bob.
What I consciousness though?
It's clearly not hardware, if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.
What I consciousness though?
It's organic.
if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.
The point is moot - the consciousness of the frozen billionaire is non-existent in either case.
It’s organic
Why? Why could there not be a non-organic consciousness?
Going to take it a step further and say artificial life is just organic life with extra steps.
The concept of robots that continued to evolve post creators is not new to scifi.
In some ways our own body is simply an emergent complex machine of regenerative biodegradable micro hardware.
There maybe could, but it would be a different one from the person. A second consciousness that was copied.
To my knowledge we are nowhere close to being able to actually transfer a consciousness
Of course we aren't close. But the above poster was making a categorical statement that consciousness must be biological.
The only consciousness we have ever encountered is organic in nature - speculation on non-organic forms of consciousness is pretty much esoteric.
Ie, it depends on your religious beliefs.
Before airplanes, the only form of flight was organic. This was also a firmly held religious belief.
Our ignorance doesn't mean something isn't possible. It just means we don't know if it is possible.
Before airplanes, the only form of flight was organic.
That doesn't help your argument at all - flight was being demonstrated long, long before humans even existed to observe it. Can you say the same for non-organic consciousness?
I don't know about you, but I haven't seen too many scientists rushing to find ways of measuring the consciousness of rocks.
You are making my point. For millenia, we had examples of organic flight, yet many believed we couldn't mimic that, and some thought it would be an affront to God to try, as it implied his perfect creation was lacking. And yet, now people fly every day.
No, there are no examples of inorganic consciousness at this time, but the same was true for flight 200 years ago. And we have a number of examples of organic consciousness. Scientists know better than to look for conscious rocks, just like the Wright brothers knew better than to look for flying rocks.
For real
wasn't there some girl that froze herself at 25 years old?
There are two frozen accidents I recall in which both women survived. One the (twenty-sonething-year-old?) lady was walking home but was getting too cold and couldn't make it so stopped at a friend's house but couldn't make it to the door, or she was knocking & ringing doorbell and nobody answered, something like that. She froze to death in the front yard, all living processes ceased, but her body froze in such a way that when she was found the next day & taken to the hospital, thawed, her bodily processes began to resume and she made a full recovery with no lasting effects from the trauma.
Similar outcome experienced by some other lady who fell through the ice in a frozen lake.
That's why they say you ain't dead til you're warm and dead
*died
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