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Besides VSCodium (which isn't really a fork, it's just building from the source code of VSCode without the Microsoft stuff), there aren't any VSCode forks/derivatives that aren't AI-assisted editors (see Cursor, Windsurf, those are the main two, right?).

That feels a bit weird to me, as many other pieces of software have lots of forks and derivatives (browsers, operating systems, email clients, emulators, PDF viewers, Fediverse clients, etc.). I guess people who would bother to create a fork and doesn't want to put AI in everything just uses a different editor.

There's nothing wrong with VSCodium, it's awesome. My only gripe with it is that the rpm package takes ages to update compared to everything else I use, which is weird. Other than that issue, it runs fine, and I like the flexibility that plugins give me. I just find it odd that there aren't any other VSCode derivatives/forks.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Because market size for code editors is very small compared to email, games, document viewers and social networks.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago

I've tried to set up Void, which is essentially FOSS Cursor, if that's what you're looking for.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 21 points 20 hours ago

What would you want a VSCode fork to do that can't be easily done with extensions? (which Codium can run)

It's more about not reinventing the wheel. A fork needs to have a reason to exist, because it takes significant effort to maintain and develop, and there is significant opportunity cost when that level of development activity is committed to that purpose. If there's no reason to have a fork, then it's more efficient to keep all the development energy and momentum focused in one place. And for Codium, that place is the extension repository.

If Microsoft starts actively making the core software worse, restricting or stopping updates to the open source code, tying telemetry into features in ways difficult to remove, or otherwise sabotaging the functionality or features of the non-Microsoft parts of the code, there may eventually be a need for more, harder forks taking things in potentially different directions to get around Microsoft's interference. But since that hasn't happened, the non-Microsoft build process remains quite trivial and VSCode remains a perfectly cromulent editor when building it without the Microsoft crap, there's really no need for any other forks. Codium does everything it would be reasonably expected to do.

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft is a notorious waste of time. They place no value on people over profit and they screw over everything. Most people likely just use emacs and vim for independent stuff, or whatever company junk elsewhere.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago

I write scientific articles with inline R code in Latex (using knitr), so I need syntax highlighting that jumps between two different languages within the document as well as spell checking and advanced (non AI) grammar tools for the text documents. Also I want something that looks kinda minimalistic and neat as a wiring interface - there is more writing than coding involved.

I'm sure there's some wizard somewhere who can do everything I need in Emacs, but I'm not terribly sophisticated. I just want something that works. Sadly, as much as I try to avoid anything Microsoft, VS Codium is the only thing I've found that fits my needs in a good way.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 5 points 18 hours ago

Not a fork, but also not ai infested is pulsar. It's the reincarnated atom, with lots of active development.

I still prefer it over vscode anything, the git plugin is far superior to vscode.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

On other editors, I like VSCodium the best. Something like Neovim or Helix is a bit too hardcore for me, and I like having a folder tree to navigate between different files. Sublime Text isn't open-source and, in my experience, VSCodium is more customisable with plugins and such. Lite XL is one I tried recently and seems interesting with a bunch of plugins as well, but doesn't include a GUI for the settings page (there's a plugin for that though, but strange that it's not built-in...). I still like Lite XL, it's got support for a bunch of languages. The main drawback for me is that there doesn't seem to be a git branch tree or any way to run code within the code editor.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago

For git, there is the git diff and blame plugins, but there's no plugin for a git tree...

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There is also Trae created by bytedance

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

Looking at their main page, it seems incredibly AI-related…it explicitly states that it will “build software solutions for you”

[–] 404@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

The ones that come to mind are not forks but whole new projects aiming to improve way more of the fundamental issues in VSCode, like Zed (https://zed.dev/)

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

Why would there need to be? What would a fork do?