This is when Meta or OpenAI or Elon will handover an AI solution and after a few horrific crashes, will declare the system is vetted and permanent.
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Ah yes, my employer is playing this game as well. Recently after a decade of working loyally for my company, they decided to insult everyone in my department.
We're an important department.
Step 1: Fire ATC
Step 2: Rubber stamp plane manufacturing safety checks
Step 3: ATC messes up due to shortage
Step 4: TCAS fails because it never got checked
Step 5: 🛩💥✈️
Step 6: Blame "ANTIFA Terrorist"
Step 7: Martial Law
Well, Portalnd won't fight back, we need step 7 somehow....
It's already illegal for them to strike. This comes as no surprise.
So.. slavery then?
Yeah because the US is just swarming with qualified air traffic controllers hoping to get to work in their place if they're fired. /s 🙄
... hoping to work in their place for free
oh no what will they do without all that non existent money. Bet they are super worried about getting work with their hyper specific skill set that fewer and fewer people are able to perform
Because firing the controllers worked so amazingly well when Regan did it...
And when Elon did it. It was only a few months ago when there were reports of one lonesome controller being in charge of enough air space that at least four were required. And after all of that they now aren't getting paid, with this fucktard saying if they decide not to turn up to unpaid work THEY'RE jeopardising all air traffic. No asshole, the GOP are the ones shutting it down.
I'm not too familiar with the backwards labour laws in the US, but for a place that only worships the Almighty Dollar, surely you can't get fired for not performing unpaid work.
Presidents who can't remember history tend to repeat themselves.
Admittedly he couldn't remember it if he knew it because he's senile, but he definitely was never aware of it.
The Blue States should hire them, alongside the rest of the RIF'ed personnel of the Trump Regime. During a civil war, those extra traffic controllers will help keep air travel moving smoothly and let the workers have reasonable working hours.
Also, it is the right thing to do. The Trump Regime is hurting people for the sake of a tantrum.
Haha they should, states rights and all that. Say that they are dismantling the department, which wouldn't be too far from the truth. Which means that the states have the right to make their own if the Federal Government wants to abdicate its responsibility.
Rich guy logic
Hahahaha ok. Tell that to any employment lawyer.
That is called alavery, or indentured servitude at best. Kinda frowned upon.
Reagan set the precedent in the '80s. ATCs can be summarily fired ever since Reagan broke their union
Seriously, most people still have no idea how evil Reagan really was. He did a lot of damage to this country that led to the situation we are in now.
Regan's lawyers that were pissed he couldn't do what he wanted were involved in 2000's election bullshit and are currently sitting on the supreme court
Reagan was just following the well trodden path that Jackson and Wilson blazed, and Nixon trimmed the edges.
The only reason that I put Jackson into a tie with Wilson for worst president is that Wilson did far more long term damage, but Jackson orchestrated The Trail of Tears, and several other genocides, as well as paid off the national debt entirely. This helped contribute to the longest and deepest (by percentage, not dollar amount) depression the country has ever seen.
You do understand the current president has now easily taken the "worst" spot, though.
AngryCommie and your position are both correct, and yet worse is to come.
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Reagan was a monstrous piece of shit but even a lot of dems love him. I suppose because a lot of dems are now to the right of 80s republicans.
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Any politician making decisions to not pay working citizens shall be expired
They are desperately short workers, even in the best of times, so their response is to fire the few workers they have from one of the most notoriously stressful jobs on the planet?
What is more likely to happen is that they will fire controllers loudly and publicly, lose every single lawsuit, be forced to rehire them, which they would have done anyway because they need them so badly, except they will also pay all back pay, also significant damages, an enormous fine, and if the employee is smart, they'll demand an enormous raise in pay to return.
And the MAGA Nazis deserve it.
Crippling our civil infrastructure, making the US a place no one wants to visit or trade with, cancelling all our alliances, crashing our economy, devaluing our dollar to the point thats its no longer the global reserve currency, shattering our military alliances, removing consumer food, environmental, employment protections and civil liberties.
Whats left on Putins list. Ah right, a civil war based on ethnic tensions. And destroying our legacy military might in some sort of pointless war, hopefully against an ally. And perhaps a nuclear exchange that they arent a part of. And only 3 years and ~5 months left to get that all done.
Yeah, this is just gonna lead to less efficient air traffic control, more congestion, eventually fewer flights, higher expenses, and less people flying over cause they just can’t fucking afford it.
Doesn’t really affect any of the ruling class because they have enough money to use private jets.
When’s the last time any of these assholes actually sat in economy class seat?
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Threatened to be fired from unpaid, highly specialized and stressful work? Sounds like relief rather than a threat.
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Image description: A scene from the movie Dodgeball in which a commentator says “That’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.”
And replace them with… whom, exactly?
Reagan fired the air traffic controllers without bothering to think that through, and aviation in the USA is still suffering the after-effects of that as the workers that were trained up to fill those gaps now all retire at the same time. I don't doubt the Republicans would make the same mistake twice, especially given that these ones are far stupider than Reagan's people.
Republicans (and people in general, TBH) don't make the same mistake twice.
They make it 6 or 7 times, at least.
The airline industry is much bigger now. More flights happening.
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Unpaid work is slavery, every single air traffic controller should just walk away.
Watching the US aviation industry collapse as a result would be endlessly amusing.
Reagan did it in 1981 and it didn't cause a collapse. 11000 air traffic controllers went on strike and Reagan fired all of them. This is arguably what started the decline of unions in the US.
It was fucked up then, and it would be even more fucked up now, but in reality the industry would move on pretty quickly. Hopefully the people would rise up in response, but I'm not holding my breath.
It nearly did cause a collapse and the industry has never recovered. ATC has been a critically understaffed industry since before you were born.
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