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You guys dont turn off your laptops?
Isn't it bad for the pc?
Oh my soul is too old lol
What you guys do instead?
Walk into an average mega corp office that is full of windows desktops, after everyone has left. Every pc is still on.
On like, suspend or hibernate?
I am afraid to put my lap on suspend overnight.
Hibernate is actually usefull if you have hectic works on standby and have to shutdown
Not so much nowadays, but we remember!
I relate to this about 20 years or more ago.
Yeah, if I'm not using the computer I turn it off because why would I be wasting electricity? So it's the same for windows or linux to me. You do need to reboot your computer sometimes anyway. For linux it's when you update the kernel. For windows you just have to reboot for similar reasons or after you've spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why something isn't working and then in desperation "try turning it off and turning it back on again". Better to just turn it off when you're done using it and turn it on when you need it again and many of those issues are avoided completely.
So I turn off my computer when I'm not using it and I save power AND so the computer doesn't get glitchy. It doesn't take much time for the computer to boot up, so there's not much reason to not just turn it off when I'm not using it.
For linux, its when you update the kernel.
May I introduce kexec
It doesn't really do a lot for most people since you just skip UEFI initialization, which yeah does save a lot of time but you still need to restart all your processes
Now my system uptime will be his entire lifespan
But by the time the lid is up to reach the power button, it's already out of sleep and operationalβ¦
Meanwhile, my work Windows laptop is significantly slower to wake up now as I'm forced to hibernate it thanks to them removing S3 sleep in favor of the modern standby shit.
I remember when windows used to brag about incredibly fast boot times.
Now, my 5 yo gaming PC takes about 30 seconds to wake up to the password screen. While my Linux laptop takes 15 seconds to go from cold start to desktop.
For me I can reach the windows desktop in around 14 or 15 seconds (auto login), for most people the biggest bottleneck is a slow bios.
Linux and windows normally have very similar boot times at least on my hardware.
5600X
B550 AORUS ELITE
Intel 660p
My 10yo gaming PC is probably "faster" to boot because it is set up to auto logon without password promt so it boots straight to desktop without any interruptions while my Linux laptop has pre-boot-authentication and then normal login. But between these two password promts is basically no time at all
Lucky you! Mine just crashes when I try to enter Sleep mode leaving both screens on and frozen, and nothing at all working.
The problem is that by the time I have said that to them it's already to desktop. I cursed Myself by having an operating system that is fast and efficient and I also did not install 18 different applications that open at boot. So now I just feel left out from the group not waiting for my computer to finish booting :(
First of all, our computers are always on. Those kernels don't compile themselves, three times a day. Secondarily we could, at least, turn our machines on without having to install a dozen of updates before having to reboot again.
I knew there had to be a different reason for global warming. Linux users don't turn off their computers, thats why!
If systems that run Linux were to power down, that's it for almost all of the internet.
Sure, if you mean global data centers ;)
If people could just be kind and turn off the server when they leave.
If you close a tab, get a prompt; "it looks like you're leaving this website, would you like to power down the server(s)?"
And all websites use wake-on-lan over the internet so the first person every day just starts the server and the last one turns off the lights!
My Ubuntu server has about 3 years of uptime right now, I don't get this mΓ©mΓ©
Is the joke that hibernate and sleep states never seem to work right?
It was mostly because of Nvidia drivers. So many Linux issues is just Nvidia related.
Bs, I have had so many sleep issues on laptops without Nvidia graphics cards.
The most recent issue I had was something inhibiting sleep that I couldn't disable.
Before that it was being unable to decrypt the hibernate data on an encrypted disk.
No its an antimeme. The joke is that everybody gotta turn it on.
sleep and hibernate work fine on linux. I remember the olden days like 15 years ago where nothing of it worked. contrary to the stupid macos that was forced onto me which sleep means nothing and just keeps draining my bluetooth headphones battery anyway instead of turning off when I tell it to.
I still have issues on two separate machines. One won't hibernate sometimes, I suspect the nvidia card. The other has a new-ish ethernet card, which doesn't work after waking from hibernation (unless I reload the kernel module)
What's the point of hibernation? You have so much stuff open in some exact state you can't just turn off the computer?
It takes less time for me to boot fresh than to resume from hibernation (32GB of RAM)
Yes. I leave my laptop running in the office overnight, and at the end of the day I have a bunch of note documents, papers, code editors, and corresponding plots open and arranged among multiple monitors. It's extremely annoying to re-do this setup the next day, so I leave it running. If hibernation worked reliably, I could turn the machine off at the end of the day.
Yeah, I have another one that has a stupid nvidia card that crashes when trying to hibernate sometimes. But that's nvidia fault, it was not something I would buy, was also forced upon me by another work place. At least it's consistent since many times it just crashes on boot up too and needs to be forced reboot up to 10 times sometimes.
Nvidia should burn in hell.
Uptime is 99.99%, gotta reboot sometimes.
Ksplice would like to have a word