MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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isnt it more apt to say both sides can do bad?
Wild stuff. I wonder if their attitude would change if they got kidnapped and had to live in detention for years.
I really feel for the hostages. The worst part must be their friends outside bombing the shit out of the place "to get them back"
If they’re in the US, they might just find out
I read that as "if they're on Band Camp".
To be fair, we haven't heard Israel's mix tape. Maybe it slaps.
Turns out, it's just hours of audio of Palestinians being murdered.
I'm given to understand it's a big hit on Capitol Hill, especially, though not exclusively, amongst Republicans.
Lemmy has a serious antisemitism problem
Everywhere does. It's not just that actual antisemitism is on the rise, though: talking about it at all has become difficult. Israel has done an unbelievable amount of damage to Judaism worldwide by working to conflate anti-genocidal sentiments with anti-Jewish ones. Any time I see anyone being accused of antisemitism my first reaction is "no, Israel doesn't represent all Jews and they're committing fucking mass murder," which gives cover to people who really are talking about shadowy globalist conspiracies or whatever.
And talking about it with other Jews is more exhausting than anyone else, because often it turns out they're also confusing the two. Then I have to walk a tightrope between trying to help someone see their own hypocrisy and making them tune me out entirely. I've had enough of that impossible type of conversation while trying to talk down the Trump voters I know, thankyouverymuch... it makes me want to disconnect from the community entirely. Disgusting and shameful aren't strong enough words.
The problem is serious, but also the antisemitism is only incidental. If the positions were reversed, they would be anti-Arab partisans, crying for the 'genetically-based ethnic cleansing' of Arabs. The core of the issue is that it's just team sports to them instead of the lives of millions.
So to your mind, criticism of Israel equates to antisemitism?
no
I've criticised israel a great deal
I like it when you link this antiyanks because it includes me criticising israel :)
No you do not. Why are you lying? You know everybody can follow the link and see for themselves
Have you considered that you can criticise multiple sides? That one side doing bad doesn't make another side automatically good? That the innocent are the ones who suffer at the hands of tyrants?
I guess there’s at least 4 others like him here
Antiyanks is a known troll
I guess I could start trying to remember usernames
No use with antiyanks, unfortunately - he gets banned and makes a new account with a new name every week or so. It's his 'distinctive' style, and obsessive choice of targets and canned phrases, which make him recognizable.
Well, good for him for putting his energy into effecting real change in the world 😐