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It's so telling that it's been a long established chanlord policy that "anything goes" on /b/ except furry art. Gore and snuff are fine, but that? Outrageous! wojak-nooo

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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hating furries is discount homophobia

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And discount ableism against neurodivergent people

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

If I can shamelessly self-promote for a moment, I actually made an effortpost arguing this a while back.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

The explosion of hatred against otherkin heralded the beginning of the modern age of fascism in the US, too. trump-moist

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (4 children)

God I remember when punching down on furries was something everyone did and not just edgelords. I'm glad furries are now more accepted by people, the internet at large used to be outright hostile to them.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

I'm so old I remember in the stone ages of the internet the furry community being among the only ones that would defend or at least be non-hostile toward the transgender/gender nonconforming communities.

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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I definitely support the furry community. I also support the scalies and whatever other subcategories there are. Are people wearing slug or earthworm Jim style outfits slimies? I stand behind them. Are there chitinies from the insect fanbase? Do we need separate categories for The Tick and the Mothman? I think everyone should live their best lives and I’ll use whatever collective nouns are appropriate.

But I cannot accept the Snake of the Lake having hands. Snakes very intentionally got rid of their hands in evolutionary time and it just feels like it’s breaking a rule. I could go for a Skink of the Lake - they’re pretty snake-like. It’s just that snakes are one of very few groups of animals that said “Fuck legs, they just get in the way of slithering,” and I think we need to accept that.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Are there chitinies from the insect fanbase? Do we need separate categories for The Tick and the Mothman?

We're just another subset of furries, really

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So I confess that I have a bit of a specialization in ants. I’m struggling with a collective noun for the fandom that likes to take on ant role playing, though.

Can we call them ant-hropomorphic?

I swear I really have studied ants quite extensively and I didn’t make that up for the pun.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I don't know if "the fandom that likes to take on ant role playing" is enough of a thing to need a specific term. Bug furries are a tiny proportion of the overall fandom, and what few there are mostly pick species like bees and moths. I do like the pun, though.

Anyway, the releases of Bug Fables and Hollow Knight were pretty big boons to us.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

That makes sense. And honestly, being an ant wouldn’t be a lot of fun unless you wanted to do a Bug’s Life version of what an ant is. Being an ant would be like being a liver cell. You get some inputs that map directly to outputs, and you’re not an individual so much as tiny part of a colony, which itself is closer to what we’d call an individual. I could go on for hours, or literally a semester. Ants can be told “We need you to be a girder. We’re building a big nest, and we need you to bite this other ant on the ass and stay there until you die so we can have a superstructure.” And the ant is like “Cool, on it!” And there’s all kinds of levels and differences and everything, but most of it isn’t aspirational except insofar as cooperation is a good idea.

If I might suggest something for the potential bug furries, using the term loosely, I’d say take a look at the jumping spiders. They’re very intelligent - like they can learn to solve puzzles. They’re beautiful and friendly and there’s an absolutely brilliant science fiction trilogy by Adrian Tchaikovsky called Children of Time that is based on the idea of that kind of civilization spiders would create if they kept their spider nature but were given human-scale intelligence. It’s extremely well written both from a literary perspective and as science.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

there’s an absolutely brilliant science fiction trilogy by Adrian Tchaikovsky called Children of Time

I've had this series on my 'to read' list for a while, but I don't remember adding it and didn't remember anything about it. Thank you for this great description that doesn't give anything away with the story, you have helped move this series to be my next read.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Another "anthro reptiles that walk and talk like people shouldn't have tits because realism" struggle session incoming! here-it-comes

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lizards can have fat titties as a treat

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the Elder Scrolls series, those contain Hist-sap for feeding to offspring born too far from Hist-trees. berdly-actually

[–] booty@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I'm still of the opinion that argonian breasts are literally just fat deposits located there because the hist thought it would help them fit in with the mammals better.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

anthropomorphic reptiles

humanized reptiles

humans have tits

where's the problem

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[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

They used to go by skink of the lake, but then they'd always have to spend 10 minutes explaining what a skink is, only for the person to go "So you're the snake of the lake!"

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

But I cannot accept the Snake of the Lake having hands. Snakes very intentionally got rid of their hands in evolutionary time and it just feels like it’s breaking a rule

there are legless lizards like the slow worm

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

It's so telling that it's been a long established chanlord policy that "anything goes" on /b/ except furry art. Gore and snuff are fine, but that? Outrageous!

On the plus side it probably contributed to their lack of cultural in-roads in the furry community and is part of what makes it generally a pretty ok crowd barring the extremely tiny minority trying to make nazi furs a thing.

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tangentially related but Tezuka also wrote an Astro Boy story where he shoots down American planes over Vietnam

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Hollywood make this a movie you cowards

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Lee Si Tsin was Astro Boy?!

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Hello, based ?

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so telling that it's been a long established chanlord policy that "anything goes" on /b/ except furry art.

my son, times have changed, I am sure there are /s/ fur and /g/ fur threads active at this very moment

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Woe is me, I haven't been to 4chan in so many years that I missed out on the new flavors of awful from there.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What if I told you that 4chan and kiwifarms made a baby that possesses the worst possible traits from its parents?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

A cryptofascist-to-fascist pipeline site that vaguely tolerates furries over time can't have gotten worse, right? anakin-padme-2

...A cryptofascist-to-fascist pipeline site that vaguely tolerates furries over time can't have gotten worse, right? anakin-padme-4

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Subscribe to !furry@hexbear.net, comrades, or you're a liberal!

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Calling Tezuka the "inventor of anime and manga" is a bit of a reach.

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I was always fine with furries, the problem on /b/ and 4chan (other than all the other problems with /b/) was that if you allowed furry-posting, all there would be was furry posting (by trolls) because there is so much of it to post. I wasn't a fan of the creation of /trash/, but I do remember how much of the forum it cleared up. That said, it really was mostly indicative of the blatant homophobia of the site that that was the policy, rather than just a topic quarantine like most other things.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

the problem on /b/ and 4chan (other than all the other problems with /b/) was that if you allowed furry-posting, all there would be was furry posting (by trolls) because there is so much of it to post

How does that justify endless gore/snuff pics? noelle-what

I think the simpler and more likely answer is that the chanlords were fucking hypocrites and had a particular hatred of furries and justified their policies after the fact.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh no, it doesn't. 4chan can rot in hell and the world would be better off with the entire site banned and erased from the collective memory. It's just that was the policy rationale at the time. The gore and snuff was far from endless. You'd get maybe 40-50 posts like that max a day, but people would post hundreds of furry pics on loop spamming all the sub forums.

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[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I'm gonna pick the centrist opinion of saying furries are cool with me and that I don't watch anime.

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