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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

I'm keeping a large distance to hyprland, I have not heard about Omarchy or dhh before, but it does seem very sus from these descriptions. It is disappointing to see Framework sponsor such projects, but we have to take a step back and realize that this is not as important as the 800+ forum replies make it out to be. These really are small details. We need to more often unite around smaller sets of shared values and not hold everything to the absolute highest standards, although having such standards is important in itself.

[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

can you all just fucking chill oh my god

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[–] banshee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

DHH is clearly a turd, and I want nothing to do with his projects.

I'm not sure I understand the opposition to Hyprland though. I enjoy using Hyprland, so I've tried to make an informed opinion on whether the project is harmful. Note that I have only reviewed public information, so I might only be seeing the tip of the iceberg.

According to his blog posts, the creator of Hyprland seems to have received criticism well enough (back in 2023). Are other people in the community the main concern or am I missing something? Forgive my ignorance

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[–] festus@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lesson learned - companies should never support open source projects because you run the risk of pissing people off.

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago

So someone post a tech load out of wholly good hardware and software. I'll fucking wait...

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago

Hyprland and Omarchy seem like alright projects. Someone over at Framework is personally using both so sponsoring them seems pretty natural imo

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

All this because Hyprland......checks notes......seems to allow free speech on their discord?

Guys.........come on lol. Why do some people try to make absolutely everything political? not just political either, but radical levels of political extremism. Don't judge a company by the things random unaffiliated people say on their forums lol. Hell, even if they are affiliated - who cares? Eat some concrete.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in -3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Just for donating to hyprland? An absolutely overkill reaction.

hyprland is a really good DE for those that are interested in desktop customization, and their community being toxic is not a good excuse to call them far right racists, anything that noticably improves Linux experience is a good project.

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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org -4 points 2 months ago

Ah, that's where the 40% markup they charge for hardware compared to other manufacturers selling the same part goes to! Gotta sponsor racists.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 2 months ago

Mid tier hardware with gimmicks for an obnoxious price. Who knew the owners were also jerks. I'll keep using my used Thinkpad and if I ever need a more powerful laptop I'll get a T480.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -5 points 2 months ago

Let's not act as if it's wise to be hopeful that any successful company can have decent politics (maybe if it's a worker coop). Spineless liberals is the best we can hope for.

It's just like with Valve and Nintendo: Companies are not your friends!

But let's also not act as if any political issue can be fought only in the language of consumerism. Stop falling for that "vote with your wallet" BS if you want to stop falling for these liberals.

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