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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] nroth@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Projects are not their authors. Please give the politics a rest. I've had enough of politics lately.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 hours ago

Sadly, the official discord server appears to also be a cesspool. So the community is also not that great

Which sucks, because omarchy seems to be quite nice

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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Wow framework sells a lot of computers to real fascist psychos. That thread is rough. Comment about ICE only arresting criminals would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic. "I have immigrant friends" lol.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 25 points 12 hours ago

I don't care if they're selling computers to fascist psychos.

I do care that they're using their soapbox to promote those fascist psychos.

[–] pegazz@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure if they are a large part of framework's consumers, or just very vocal in that thread.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 9 hours ago

I wasn't worried about that I was just disappointed by the thread

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[–] majster@lemmy.zip 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I really don't know if people actually mean fascism/nazism or is this just a term applied to xenophobic nationalism. I see this all around fedi and I genuinely can't tell which case it is.

[–] bss03 4 points 7 hours ago

Palingenetic ultranationalism is a definition of "true fascism" proposed by political theorist Roger Griffin.

So, you are painting with a fairly fine brush there. While "Nazi" is more metaphorical, there are definitely people with authority in the US government that are literally fascists.

[–] SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe 5 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

@majster @pegazz What's the difference? And why should anyone who isn't a fascist, a nazi, or a xenophobic nationalist care?

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 6 points 11 hours ago

For the same reason you compare things lightly to the holocaust. At some point the word looses the gravity of it's meaning.

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