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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Stockholm Syndrome isn't even a real diagnosis. It came from a bank robbery in Stockholm where the women hostages were thought to be infatuated with their captor. Afterward, a psychologist coined the phrase Stockholm Syndrome and the women were all like, no, we were just trying to not die.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago

Well, they also refused to testify against their captors and raised money for their legal defense. So there's that.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago

Bonus fact: the reason they suspected the hostages were infatuated? Because they were scared by the police going in guns blazing, and didn't welcome them with open arms.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It fits closer to trauma bonding

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I dunno. I started my own company, and now I work twice as hard as before. My boss (me) doesn't let me take sick days or vacation because we have no employees and would literally have to close to do so... I have self-induced Stockholm Syndrome?

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago

sigh

Fine...

grabs spray paint

unless you own a small business...

There.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You played yourself buddy 👍

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

At least I'm earning equity for myself this way, instead of someone else. Le sigh

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Lenin was a fool

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Okay so I know nothing of the nature of your business, but something tells me that you are forced to work that much in order to survive. That is very much a result of capitalism (most of your work value is probably ultimately going to the capitalists), and the fact that you seem to feel that this is fine implies some sort of Stockholm syndrome relationship with the capitalists.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

If you were a farmer you'd have to work hard to survive too

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I'm complaining but I'm also not complaining. I guess I'm a capitalist now. A slightly left of centre capitalist. But I also work. Hard.

I do scientific equipment -- ground penetrating radars and similar. I started this business because I made a device when working for another company and didn't get to own the intellectual property. Which is fair -- they bankrolled it. But I wanted to own my next creation, and to do that, I needed to go independent.

It took a lot of education (7 years), experience (12 years), and capital (I wagered my entire retirement savings). I work this much because I want the business to snowball, and it is. It means I only pay myself like a student (fortunately I chose a low cost of living city to startup in), but pile up equity in lieu of salary.

I will note that this is only possible because of socialism providing the safety net that it does in Canada. I had no family wealth. My education was good and relatively cheap. I was student loan free within 5 years. I don't worry about health care. Soon we'll even have dental care on a national scale (2024). I pay taxes and am happy to pay it forward to the society that helped make me, provided they do so smartly. (Radical Centrist.)

But, yeah, the business model I chose doesn't allow me sick days until we have our first employee.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

All I can picture is a CEO driving past that in his limousine and laughing.

😞

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Alt text: "You are not a capitalist, you are a worker with Stockholm syndrome" written on a wall with black spray paint

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you own stock are you like ... sort of a capitalist? A half cap?

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re the younger sibling with the game controller that’s not plugged in while the older one plays the game.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Honestly that's such a perfect metaphor. I'm impressed!

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're aiding and abetting capitalists.

It's not until you have enough to sit on a board of a fortune 500 that you can at least consider yourself part capitalist.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Interesting way to redefine capitalist.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on if you define capitalist as someone who owns capital or simply someone who believes in the economic ideology that is capitalism, i.e., you believe land, labor, and capital ought to be privately rather than socially owned. But I suppose that's the point of the graffiti, that if you are not the capital-owning type, then you're probably just stockholm syndrome-d into being a believer in the economic ideology that is capitalism.

But what I also find interesting is that our current system isn't purely capitalist, as we have all sorts of instances by which land or labor or capital aren't privately owned. For instance, when we tax labor, we're partially socializing ownership of people's labor, which is something a purely capitalist system wouldn't do. Heck, not even a purely socialist system would tax labor, because socialism is about social ownership of land and capital, but not labor.

All that said, however, we are certainly closer to capitalism than any other economic system, but still worthwhile to consider the endless complexity that is the economy and how we attempt to describe it. Not even sure where I'm going with this comment anymore, but I hope someone out there finds it at least mildly interesting.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I liked your ramble :)