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    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    For my basic needs it always felt more confusing then necessary. Don't have a hate boner for it, but i prefer not to use it at this point. I'm using Void and i really like how simple runit is.

    [–] bulletmark@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

    When looking for an alternative to replace Arch ARM on my Raspberry Pi I tried Void but gave up after discovering it does not use systemd.

    [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Ehh it's very easy to use. Simpler then init actually but some people hate change.

    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

    Well i'm not saying it's rocket science, but compared to runit/rc.local or simple autostart scripts i do think it's easier. I converted everything from my autostart script to systemd services when i was still on NixOS, and the whole thing seemed so convoluted. With having to set services to depend on each other, and also had a lot of problems with things like nm-applet or blueman-applet not showing up in the bar at all, and couldn't find a way to fix it.

    [–] Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    This not a kill tony joke?

    [–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    No, kill Tony just sticks his thumb up his butt for Joe Rogan. Nothing to do with Linux.

    [–] Dhar@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I'm still waiting for them to get DNS and user services working. Then it'll finally be usable.

    [–] tal@olio.cafe 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    DNS

    There's systemd-resolved. I don't know if you mean that it has some kind of limitation.

    [–] Dhar@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It doesn't work with private DNS servers or forward DNS over VPN. Removing it is always the first thing I have to do with new Linux installs.

    [–] tal@olio.cafe 1 points 3 days ago

    It doesn’t work with private DNS servers or forward DNS over VPN.

    Like, you want to have it query some particular DNS server?

    From man 5 resolved.conf:

       DNS=
           A space-separated list of IPv4 and IPv6 addresses to
           use as system DNS servers. 
    
           For compatibility reasons, if
           this setting is not specified, the DNS servers listed
           in /etc/resolv.conf are used instead, if that file
           exists and any servers are configured in it.
    

    If you specify your private server there, it should work. For VPN, I mean, whatever VPN software you're using will need to plonk it in there. Maybe yours is not aware of systemd-resolved, is modifying /etc/resolv.conf after systemd-resolved has already started, and it doesn't watch it for updates?

    In my /etc/nsswitch.conf, I have:

    hosts:          files myhostname mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns
    

    I'm assuming that the "resolve" entry is for systemd-resolved.

    kagis

    https://www.procustodibus.com/blog/2022/03/wireguard-dns-config-for-systemd/

    With systemd-resolved, however, instead of using that DNS setting, add the following PostUp command to the [Interface] section of your WireGuard config file:

    PostUp = resolvectl dns %i 9.9.9.9#dns.quad9.net 149.112.112.112#dns.quad9.net; resolvectl domain %i ~.
    

    When you start your WireGuard interface up, this command will direct systemd-resolved to use the DNS server at 9.9.9.9 (or at 149.112.112.112, if 9.9.9.9 is not available) to resolve queries for any domain name.

    [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

    I do not particularly care for it and most of my systems are still systemd free. Much like pulseaudio in its later days, I've learned to deal with it when I must. Also like pulseaudio, something better will probably come along.

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

    I don't mind the config.

    I don't mind most of the features.

    I dislike them trying to use timers to get rid of cron

    I like it's logging for linux on the desktop if I lose some logs becuas of space that's what i'd do anyway

    I don't like it's logging for servers, those logs are necessary and need to be preserved.

    journalctl -f is pretty cool

    journalctl -fu is pretty cool

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 3 points 3 days ago
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