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    [โ€“] ronflex@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

    Systemd has simplified my life on a few occasions, and it seems to be reliable from what I can tell. At the end of the day if I can get the OS to do what I want in a relatively simple matter, that's all I care about.

    [โ€“] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I don't know what systemd is but this is pretty much how I picture all linux users.

    [โ€“] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Systemd is fine.

    Journald is fine.

    But someone pass me a mace I can beat systemd-resolved and systemd-logind to death with

    EDIT: Oh come on

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    [โ€“] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 144 points 3 days ago (4 children)
    [โ€“] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 40 points 3 days ago

    I fully agree. I am a user with a bit of technical background, but not a lot of detailled knowledge about the inner workings of an operating system (i know boolean logic and basic programming structures - in Pascal lol - from the 90's, what a transistor does and stuff, how to build my own PCs and handle filesystems and troubleshooting).

    With init scripts, i hit a wall pretty fast.

    With Systemd i know how to start, stop and configure services, and the suite built around it uses the same conventions everywhere, making the everyday life with Linux for someone like me so much easier and more transparent than ever before.

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    [โ€“] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

    Well, now I do.

    [โ€“] elvith@feddit.org 84 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Rule 34:

    If there's a user base, there's buttplug.io support...

    [โ€“] Deme@sopuli.xyz 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Error: That number is already picked for a different rule. Please select a different number.

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    [โ€“] ODGreen@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

    Let's hope the user base is flared.

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    [โ€“] JackbyDev@programming.dev 37 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    I don't get the systemd hate. The most common complaint I see is that it's too bloated, but Arch uses it, so what gives? Is it just that people dislike change? Like Wayland hate (not Wayland frustration)?

    [โ€“] jj4211@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Generally I see a few:

    • People wanting the highly deterministic, but slower behavior of the rc scripts.
    • People liking the fact that the rc startup was generally almost entirely defined in plain script files
    • Some folks criticizing certain opinionated things in systemd, as systemd delves deeper into things like capabilities and users.
    • Systemd can sometimes be a bit weird about how it does/does not capture stdout/stderr as one might guess in some situations.
    • Some folks not liking the journald angle of binary-only files

    Mainly the last point is the only one I personally find potentially aggravating, but since I never really am in a broken system without journalctl I'm not too bothered by it. I have saved myself some effort thanks to systemd including stuff that the daemons used to provide for themselves.

    [โ€“] tetris11@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    People wanting the highly deterministic, but slower behavior of the rc scripts.

    This is literally it for me. I got to work on an alpine system and it was like a breath of fresh air - I could edit the service script files directly. So easy, so little abstraction

    [โ€“] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I'm more frustrated with GNOME devs sabotaging Wayland.

    [โ€“] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I'm more frustrated with GNOME devs...

    Say no more!

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    [โ€“] Rooty@lemmy.world 111 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    The other day I wrote I like snaps and shot more rope than Spiderman.

    [โ€“] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 51 points 3 days ago (9 children)

    Flatpak is amazing especially with storage being so cheap these days.

    [โ€“] ikidd@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago
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    [โ€“] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    My biggest complaint with systemd....

    Service xxx stop/start/restart is so much easier than

    Systemctl stop/start/restart xxx

    It fucking annoys me

    [โ€“] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I mean, you could write a shell function or script to just wrap it if it bothered you that much?

    [โ€“] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Understandable, have a nice day

    [โ€“] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    alias service="systemctl"
    

    Or even

    alias s="systemctl"
    
    [โ€“] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Note the order of the commands. I don't mind typing aystemctl

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    I dislike systemd less than I dislike sysvinit, so it has that going for it.

    [โ€“] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago
    [โ€“] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I still don't get what you guys have against Windows. Bill Gates has done so much good for the world.

    (My body is ready.)

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    [โ€“] drath@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

    Have one extra buzz from me as well. Screw RedHat and everything it does.

    [โ€“] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 67 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Okay, so, this place IS filled with furries. Cool.

    [โ€“] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 3 days ago

    Linux wouldn't work without furries

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Every online space is filled with furries, especially the most furry-hostile spaces!

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    [โ€“] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 84 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Systemd is the greatest innovation that Linux has ever seen bar none.

    [โ€“] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 42 points 3 days ago

    Since I started actually doing system administration and actually interacting directly with SystemD all of the hate for it I'd soaked up from enthusiast forums melted away. I've never used any of the other init systems so maybe I'm missing out, but I do appreciate SystemD for what it does

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    I don't know if I like how you're characterizing furries. Not all of us do this, and I don't do it... often.

    [โ€“] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago

    This must be why my post saying Linux made me gay got so many up votes.

    [โ€“] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

    Please tell me your phone has a flared base?

    [โ€“] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Listen, we've all done it.

    We all have bash or fish or zsh aliases to do it in command.

    We all love the feeling of a pulsing phone in our asses.

    But we don't talk about it.

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    [โ€“] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 62 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Must your climax be fueled by our frustrations? Vibrators are cheap, you know.

    [โ€“] archonet@lemy.lol 60 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Must your climax be fueled by our frustrations?

    Maybe that's exactly what gets him off.

    [โ€“] tal@olio.cafe 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Frankly, this should be implemented with something like a combination of:

    https://github.com/QazCetelic/lemmy-know

    Lemmy Know (let me know) is a lightweight CLI application / Docker service that monitors Lemmy for reports on posts and comments and sends notification. These can be sent to a Discord channel with a webhook or as MQTT messages (schema), which is useful for more complex setups with e.g., Node-RED.

    https://www.home-assistant.io/

    Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first. Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts.

    https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mqtt/

    MQTT (aka MQ Telemetry Transport) is a machine-to-machine or โ€œInternet of Thingsโ€ connectivity protocol on top of TCP/IP. It allows extremely lightweight publish/subscribe messaging transport.

    https://github.com/DevelopmentalOctopus/ha-buttplug

    Buttplug.io Integration for Home Assistant

    https://intiface.com/central/

    Intifaceยฎ Central is an open-source, cross-platform application that acts as a hub for intimate haptics/sensor hardware access

    Some collection of hardware devices from:

    https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available%2CDIY&filter1Connection=Digital&filter2ButtplugSupport=4

    That'd permit for, say, having message events drive a state machine to control devices or something like that.

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    [โ€“] Kolanaki@pawb.social 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    She wants the system's D. ๐Ÿ˜

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    [โ€“] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    I just like being able to use things I learn across Ubuntu, Debian, Arch and RHEL.

    Also prefixing a command with systemd-cat and having the logs go to the journal is pretty nice. Then I don't have to worry about rotating them.

    [โ€“] voldage@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago
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