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[–] ardi60@reddthat.com 172 points 4 weeks ago (13 children)

Here's your bypass:

In OOBE, go through MS account creation. Tell it you were born today. It'll let you set a password for the MS account before rejecting you due to COPA requirements. At this point, you can make an offline account without having even created an MS account, let alone having to use one.

This will not go away - it's a legal thing. MS doesn't want to deal with COPA stuff for very young kids, so this flow exists. Enjoy.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 56 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Rufus can be used to disable account creation along with other settings.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

rufus doesn't help with preloads that you don't want to or can't, for whatever reason, overwrite with a 'clean' install.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

If os can't be installed off a usb then that means linux can't either, which makes it a pretty sad machine to spend money on.

So it must be a work or school device then? Which users wouldn't be installing OS on anyways with it being handled through IT.

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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

This is the rule for any account or mobile game, too - if it asks your age before asking for consent to farm, put any age below 13. It'll either not farm you because it's illegal or it'll kick you out. If the latter, good riddance really

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

If that actually becomes a thing people do, that could prompt MS to start to require either submitting to a face scan or showing some government ID just to install Windows, though, if the way Google's handling KYC on YT if your account gets flagged as underage, and soon Android app dev, as well as KYC going out across other sites, is any indication.

I'm pretty sure having to KYC just to install an OS is the last thing people want right now.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Let them. The entire world is slowly migrating to Mac and Linux. I haven't even had the option of windows at my last 3 jobs. (To be fair, I've never had the option of desktop Linux, but this last one said pick a computer—I'm not positive that they would've balked at Linux.) That said, idk what's so great about Mac over Linux, but I guess it's not corporate friendly.

I'm trying to think of which MS products we even have in our ecosystem. Office, I guess. Corporate world will never wean themselves off of Excel.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Back in my day, we had to make ourselves looks older online to get things, not younger! hehe

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[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 98 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

From the other time this was posted:

95 is the stick, and ME is the stick up someone’s butt.

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 90 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

“While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured for use.”

Lol sure. If that was the real reason they'd simply let you create a local account. The audacious lying is just insulting.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured for use

Oh no, onedrive not working or the office nagging screen missing in the start menu, how will we cope.

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[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 77 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"It would bypass critical steps..."

Which step is that, data collection? Shoving OneDrive down my throat by putting my Desktop in it with no way to easily remove it?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 21 points 4 weeks ago

collecting data, and training AI of course.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 68 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Don't plug to many, otherwise people might start jumping ship!

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

just making it easier to act like they don't even exist. I'll never, EVER get an account for MY computer.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no online accounts needed for Linux.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 weeks ago
[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

Same, I refuse to have my OS linked to anything other then a local account.

Especially since most email accounts now need cell phone numbers, and home addresses.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 65 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I am horrified by what computers have become, from expensive magical tools to solve real problems, to ubiquitous shit-shoveling malware appliances controlled by some of the worst elements of society.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Those kinds of computers still exist, it's called Linux.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

I've never been more appreciative than I am now of the decades of effort that have gone into building this free and open-source operating system.

Imagine if we were here in 2025, with all the incumbent operating systems going to shit, but in a world where Linux didn't exist and there was no alternative that wasn't owned by a tech giant.

I don't even want to imagine.

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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 29 points 4 weeks ago

to ubiquitous shit-shoveling malware appliances controlled by some of the worst elements of society.

Hmmm, I wonder which background economical system we all live in that could explain why every single technology ends up controlled by the top 1% to make our lives more miserable and their profits higher...

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I despise that I have to use this OS at work. I would never run windows on my own computer again. Its just insanity. Next they'll require a credit card to make a Microsoft account.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I could see them requiring government-issued ID. The age verification laws coming into effect in various states and countries make this a logical step for Microsoft. They might even start their own age verification service where you give them your ID and they vouch for your age with the sites you visit in Edge. Of course it would have the totally accidental side effect that everything you do on your computer could be monitored and legally tied to your identity.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The only thing you should give Microsoft is the finger.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 48 points 4 weeks ago

Switched to Linux full time at the start of 2025 and haven't looked back. I fully intend to go the rest of my life without using windows again.

[–] salacious_coaster 44 points 4 weeks ago

If I was still a solo sysadmin, today I would be reevaluating the feasibility of dumping Windows altogether.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This "subscription" mentality is ruining value for a lot of society but, holy shit, do you ever rake in those huge amounts of monthly cash, for very little work.

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[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 35 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Lol it's been great getting off of Windows over the last few months.

I thought I would miss it, but Proton in Steam has been amazing on Ubuntu, with some exceptions (Stupid EA crap from skate. 2025).

Dual booting for now is OK, but gaming is pretty garbage anyway, so I will probably abandon Windows entirely soon. Definitely my last version of it. Feel so liberated having hobbies off computer anyway, and now using my computers with Ubuntu is actually enjoyable again instead of driving an expensive spy machine.

:)

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 4 weeks ago

I am never abandoning you, Linux

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dump windows. These megacorps need to fail.

Edit: I have only been using Linux for less than a year now, and right now, really is the perfect time to switch. I only held onto windows for gaming, and now I use bazzite. There are some games that don't have steam backup, but with the games that do, I can play the same save between my steamdeck and bazzite.

There is so much more you can do with linux and all it's distros. I've messed around with linux in the past, but never was patient enough to deal with it. Now it's really that easy.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

One option is to install an older version and update after.

A better one is not use it because it's trash.

[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Linux, your time has finally come

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

The hole they will never plug: Not using Windows.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I installed windows 11 a dozen time at work (never at home) and I just click on "domain login", it just creates a local account and then after the install I have to manually join the domain. No Microsoft account enforcement at all.

It's regular Windows 11, not Enterprise, we are a small company.

But I'm wondering, this bypass is too easy, is it because it sees that the DNS server is also an active directory server, so it allows that, or the trick is that you tell him you want to join a domain?

Or maybe it's a domain enrollment bug because we're using samba 4 under Debian as active directory server and not Windows server/entra id/whatever they call it this month?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

I just click on “domain login”

It’s regular Windows 11, not Enterprise

You need to have 11 Pro or better to domain join a computer.

Your computer would also need to be joined to your domain to allow the login, so there is definitely some config going on that is not available to the typical home user.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they ever said they plan to require it for Windows Pro or above skus. It's only home (you know the one business shouldn't be using anyway) that they said they wanted to enforce it on.

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

The Enterprise/IoT SKUs, which of course include LTSC, still let you use a local account, for now...

I won't be surprised if they plug that at some point way down the line too though given they're already playing with Windows on the Cloud in the enterprise sector.

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Where's the regulation that prevents this? Appalling.

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