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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 27 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

as one of the two non-computer scientists here, every time I check in there seems to be some load bearing open source project I've never heard of that's gone fash. "GreenBlox is refusing to kick out a contributor who said the jewish question should be on the table??" "PipeLinux official account is posting that pronouns don't exist?" open source people, are you ok?

[–] aio@awful.systems 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

CS has a huge number of people who think you can derive the solutions to social problems from first principles. It's impossible to reason with them.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 16 points 3 weeks ago

it seems to me that bigger problem is that they also think that software can solve these problems

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

open source people, are you ok?

No.

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[–] rook@awful.systems 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For the most part, the sudden rash of people deciding that their bigotry is now publicly acceptable is mostly around non-loadbearing things, because aggrieved entitled nerds aren’t great at working in a team (hyprland has definitely suffered from alienating people and missing out on fixes and compatibility work).

The rubygems stuff was a special case, because it was a hostile takeover of some important infrastructure by a shitty company, but most of the rest are unexciting projects that have found that giving it the old H-H is good publicity and more importantly: there are some rich folk throwing money around. Not a lot of cash in open source under normal circumstances.

[–] rook@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago

Not that I want to minimise the problems that open source and tech in general very definitely have, but in this specific case it is a small number of people who are very loud and/or very rich, and sometimes both.

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[–] rook@awful.systems 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bluesky going to bad for that poor, downtrodden, victimised and underrepresented demographic, uh, ai slop posters?

https://bsky.app/profile/carrion.bsky.social/post/3m2kf3rottc2h

alt textA screenshot of an email sent to a bluesky user, reading

Hi there, Your Bluesky account (@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues.

  • Harmful language such as insults or slurs
  • Unverified claims
  • Appears intended to shame or abuse users
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago

There are 'user uses AI/has AI profile' lists to they really are objecting to the word 'slop'.

'slop is a slur' discourse incoming in T minus -100.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 21 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

“In the 21st century, the Antichrist is a Luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer,” [Peter Thiel] said, referring to Thunberg and Eliezer Yudkowsky

I am going outside to smoke something. I don't care what, just… something

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"The Antichrist wants to stop all science", says the motherfucker who pays people to drop out of universities.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Damn, when you get kicked off the Thiel grifter pipeline, you get straight punted. Not even the callous disregard and abandonment practiced by a certain outer-borough real estate hustler, instead it's reverse apotheosis

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[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I just wanted to lob a sneer at this article fawning over Sora 2: https://spyglass.org/soras-slop-hits-different/

And again, a lot of this stuff — slop or not — is funny. Really, truly funny. Sora is scaling comedy in a way that we’ve never seen.

did this motherfucker just try to say "scaling comedy"? If you ever wondered why techbros are so unfunny, here's something to point at.

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[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh my god, The Guardian with the sneer:

Take a look at Sam Altman. I mean, actually do it. Go to Google images, where you can find countless photos of the OpenAI boss smiling in a kind of wan genius way, the humble lost puppy of Silicon Valley. But I urge you to simply cover the bottom half of his face in any of these pictures, and you will immediately clock that Sam has the sad-psycho eyes of the lost woman’s boyfriend who the police have asked to front the missing person’s appeal. Please come home, Sheila – we’re all worried sick and we just want you back.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A new psychology preprint argues that "contemporary AI is research misconduct".

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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 16 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)
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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 16 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

Is there a general term for the type of experimental or vaporware tech whose main function is creating FUD and FOMO which slows down the adoption and development of more mature conventional solutions? In the case of public transit these are collectively known as gadgetbahns. Examples from other fields include SMRs, direct air carbon capture, various embrace-extend-extinguish schemes in the software world, extraterrestrial colonies and a host of consumer IoT gadgets.

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

if there isn't, I'm calling it muskware, its conceptually close enough to vaporware.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bluesky's found another set of rakes to step on - after a user complained of ableism from the mods, Trust and Safety head Aaron Rodericks used the automated systems as an accountability sink, then let slip that users' work was being uploaded to AI slop service thehive.ai, seemingly contradicting Bluesky's promise to not dump artists' work into the slop machine.

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

a lobsters is mad that a middling Perl project gets upvotes just because it's "braincoded"

https://lobste.rs/s/bu1a84/i_brain_coded_static_image_gallery_few#c_um9usd

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] mii@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'd wanted to mention this when I read about Cloudflare doing it, but, seriously, what the hell is up with Omarchy?

It's not even a full distribution, just a fucking Arch config. Some shell scripts and dotfiles you can run to set up a system ... like tons of nerds have on their git and have been using for decades. Why is this shit getting sponsorships?

[–] rook@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago

The answer probably looks a lot like “here’s how to install omarchy on your laptop in 14 easy steps! And 88 great apps you can install afterwards!

[–] istewart@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Is it time yet to begin accepting that Arch is kind of ass anyway? I had a bad experience with updates crapping out on Manjaro, the original Arch-plus distro, and then somebody told me that Arch developers build all the packages on their local machines, not a secured build server??? Maybe that was just the AUR stuff, but still. And you need to update all packages in lock-step. I'll take the flexibility of Gentoo every time, where I can easily keep a stable base system and experiment with less-stable upstream packages around the edge, and still have it all make sense.

Having a bunch of out-and-proud fascists and bigots maintaining one of your most popular frontends is the kind of shit that kills projects. It's not just Framework, Arch needs to get out ahead of this if they don't want to get passed up. Not too long before having Valve downstream is the only thing they've got going for them, and that's not guaranteed to be a happy relationship forever.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Foxboron (arch maintainer dude) seems pretty good about rejecting fascism, he's in the framework thread linked from the post above expressing discontent.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 15 points 4 weeks ago

shot:

chaser:

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transcription of first imagephgn posts: Nice!! The Vercel CEO recently posed for pictures with Netanyahu, so I'm looking for an alternative actually!

aziaziazi replies: I'd be glad if you can share a source of that.

ardren replies: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vercel-ceo-takes-selfie-israe...

transcription of second imagephgn's comment is flagged and removed

an additional reply by baobun with the links https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/developers-drop-vercel-call-boycott-after-ceo-posts-selfie-netanyahu, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45416353, and https://old.reddit.com/r/nextjs/comments/1nueacb/vercel_controversy_ethics_backlash_and_a/

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

New AI alignment problem just dropped: https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1976304803744501775

Best I can do now is try to make sure that at least one AI is truth-seeking and not a super woke nanny with an iron fist that wants to turn everyone into diverse women 😬

Edit: It only just now occured to me that hes' probably whining about generative AI rather than an army of superintelligent robots marching across the earth transing people, but I'm leaving my comment.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A spectre is haunting Silicon Valley. The spectre of getting force-femmed by diamondoid bacteria.

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[–] istewart@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago

The underlying anxiety on exhibit here compels me to think that the rumors about the botched, ahem, enhancement surgery are substantially true

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 4 weeks ago

In the Financial Times:

The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year. And some analysts believe that estimate doesn’t fully capture the AI spend, so the real share could be even higher.

AI companies have accounted for 80 per cent of the gains in US stocks so far in 2025. That is helping to fund and drive US growth, as the AI-driven stock market draws in money from all over the world, and feeds a boom in consumer spending by the rich.

Since the wealthiest 10 per cent of the population own 85 per cent of US stocks, they enjoy the largest wealth effect when they go up. Little wonder then that the latest data shows America’s consumer economy rests largely on spending by the wealthy. The top 10 per cent of earners account for half of consumer spending, the highest share on record since the data begins.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Also, reading up on the recent nix community mess (more fun interpersonal steering committee member conflict!), I’ve come to one conclusion:

One day someone will make a stage play out of this whole thing and the play will suck.

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[–] mii@awful.systems 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

After kinda fence-sitting on the topic of AI in general for while, Hank Green is having a mental breakdown on YouTube over Sora2 and it's honestly pretty funny.

If you're the kind of motherfucker who will create SlopTok, you are not the kind of motherfucker who should be in charge of OpenAI.

Not that anyone should be in charge of that shitshow of a company, but hey!

Bonus sneer from the comment section:

Sam Altman in Feb 2015: "Development of superhuman machine intelligence is probably the greatest threat to the continued existence of humanity."

Sam Altman in Dec 2015, after co-founding OpenAI: "Our goal is to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return."

Sam Altman 4 days ago, on his personal blog: "we are going to have to somehow make money for video generation."

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A major Australian university used artificial intelligence technology to accuse about 6,000 students of academic misconduct last year.

The most common offence was using AI to cheat, but many of the students had done nothing wrong.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-09/artificial-intelligence-cheating-australian-catholic-university/105863524

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Lately I've been mildly annoyed when I just want to relax and watch gaming videos on Youtube and I see recommendations for some AI critihype. Out of morbid curiosity, I decided to click on one of them and of course the "original paper" the video is based on is the stupid Anthropic blog post about how the AI blackmailed someone (after it was told to blackmail someone). I was even more annoyed to find out how popular it is, but at least it shows how the general public has such a negative opinion of AI. Some of the comments are thankfully pushing back against the video and focusing on the real harms.

I thought that by now we would have learned from the tobacco companies to never trust "research" done by a company about their own products.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

what are some of the all time most ludicrous and/or bigoted lesswrong posts? i am starting a podcast where my cohost and i show each other shockingly weird or bigoted texts and discuss them. mostly we're doing historical ones but rationalist stuff is fair game

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The reflective altruism guy has an ongoing series on hbd in the rat community that includes a bunch of that, you should check him out.

For example https://reflectivealtruism.com/2025/04/18/human-biodiversity-part-7-lesswrong/

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I could never live in a dyson sphere. I cant stand how they stop charging after six months.

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[–] nfultz@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

jwz ditching basecamp - decent discussion. tbh, I ctrl-f'd for the Jira sneers. Also includes a GitLab sneer that was not on my radar.

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[–] flaviat@awful.systems 11 points 4 weeks ago

Just here to note that @dgerard had a clippy pfp before it was cool

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Think I’ve taken psychic damage reading this about moldbug contemplating leaving the country https://fxbsky.app/profile/helldude.bsky.social/post/3m2hltni4422n

[–] istewart@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

No, it will not harm the anarchist—it will make his day, his year, and maybe his life. All the money and power in the world will be at his defense. He will not even need to lift a finger to organize his own lawyers, much less pay them. In the end, as with many of the BLM rioters, he will probably be well compensated, with taxpayer funds, for his trouble. Not to mention all the pussy and/or dick s/he will, as a martyr, be entitled to! For the Islamist, this reward is only in heaven. But for the leftist it comes on earth.

ah dammit, anarchist HQ did an anarchy to my martyr's genital preference form again. now I'm getting dicked down harder than I've ever been - straight thru the mantle to the core of the earth. It's like a porn parody of The Core over here, and I'm not even anywhere near Portland

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Amusing just how basic his insults and ideas about the left are. This is generic drunken bar patron shit. Lot of projection there. You lost it Moldy, you need to add more obscure references so you don't come off so reactionary/reactive mid.

E: DakotaVAdams‬ wrote:

I think he's imagining cool Antifa street fighters as a replacement for the popular kids he was jealous of in childhood. Netd-Jock [sic] seething, but ideological.

It is not just us.

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